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#140331 - 02/26/05 03:31 AM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
Conrad Offline
addict 		Registered: 08/04/04
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Ahh, there we go. How hard would it be to make the internal program close+open the board automatically?

Also, what's the benefit of using an external program? Speed?

Overall the whole point of a backup is to make it when the board is least busy, but having to stay up until like 4am just to switch the forums back on again is a joke. This stuff should be automated.
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#140332 - 02/26/05 03:48 AM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
Anno Offline
member 		Registered: 06/07/06
Posts: 182
>How hard would it be to make the internal program close+open the board automatically?

Not hard at all. 2 queries,one at the start, and one at the end of the dump.
In the worst case, you would have to open up the board yourself.
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#140333 - 02/26/05 07:09 AM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
Conrad Offline
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Just cannot believe that this hasn't been automated yet. Opening the board is probably what matters most, as closing it can be done when you're starting the backup.

Ideally you want to start the dump when you go to sleep and have the board reopen automatically once the backup is complete...
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#140334 - 03/03/05 05:33 AM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
Conrad Offline
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One more thing, the ability for the admin to PM all users would be greatly useful. I know there are ways to email all users, but why spam everyone's mailbox when you can use the internal PM system instead?
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#140335 - 03/21/05 10:32 AM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
Conrad Offline
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Here's one more: just like we have a trash can on the Windows desktop, it would be useful to have something similar on the forums for the Admin to use. Sometimes moderators erase good threads and people get angry, the Admin can't see WHY the thread has been erased, and worst of all there's no way to bring that post back if need be.

Why can't we have a "trash can" that collects deleted threads, and that only the admin can see (+moderators if the Admin allows so). This has to be a piece of cake in terms of coding because in effect you would be creating an invisible forum and erasing threads would simply equal moving them there.
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#140336 - 03/22/05 11:45 AM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
Anno Offline
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> Sometimes moderators erase good threads and people get angry, the Admin can't see
> WHY the thread has been erased, and worst of all there's no way to bring that post
>back if need be.

Take the delete permission away from mods.
Create a hidden forum where mods can move questionable threads.
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#140337 - 04/05/05 11:14 PM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
lilywhite Offline
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Posts: 9
Quote:

Replies no longer have their own subject, so that problem has been solved.



Can I ask why? Replies IN the subject is a major plus from the point of view of many of my threaded users -- if their reply is short and to the point, they can simply type it into the subject line and hit enter. Saves the poster's time because they don't have to bother to put anything in the message field, and saves the reader's (in threaded mode) time, because they don't even have to bother to open those posts where the entire post is contained in the subject.

Most of the board is closed to non-members, but you can see what I mean here:

http://www.sonny-and-carly.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&Number=39476&an=0&page=0#39476

When I, as a threaded user, see those (EOM)s I know I don't have to read that post. Saves me three pageloads and all the database queries that would go with that.

My users would miss their automatic EOMs terribly!
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#140338 - 04/05/05 11:18 PM phpbb does it.
lilywhite Offline
stranger 		Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 9
Quote:

Well - though if you're restoring the database within threads - you wouldn't be able to be logged in, as the user's table would have to be dropped. So not sure how that would be possible.



Of course, I have no idea why it should or shouldn't work, but I know you can install a clean phpbb board on a fresh database and then "Restore Database" from within the Admin CP. It does its thing, whatever that is, LOL, and when you move back to the index page, you have to log in with your info from the database you just restored. I assume it just writes over the tables in the (mostly) empty database? And since you're not actively using it, but just sitting there waiting for the restore to finish, that makes it okay?

You can tell I'm a real genius about this stuff.
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#140339 - 04/06/05 10:10 AM Re: so if this is the last ubbt, where with the suggestions?
Charles Capps Offline
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Posts: 611
lilywhite, unfortunately we've changed the way that threaded mode replies are displayed in such a way that it makes nim/eom messages impractical. We did make this change knowing that this would inconvenience those users, however we believe the change will be for the better in terms of overall topic navigation.
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