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#170520 - 12/18/06 07:27 AM UBBThreads questions
Alexander Offline
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Registered: 12/18/06
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Hello. I wonder if you still have the old UBBThreads available for download? Was a different look. Can't you make the old releases available free of charge? Why did you do this interface change (I like it!) But can I get the old look of UBB Threads?

Also, I am a little bit confused. Are UbbCentral the same company as Groupee, Infopop, Eve Community?

Why should I buy UBBThreads (which is much more expensive than other commercial forums)? Why is it more expensive than the others? Almost so you can't afford it.

Can I use UBB Threads as a CMS/Portal site? Can I add new navigation links and custom pages?

Is the theme on this site the same as is included? Where can I see and find other themes?

Is UBB Threads fully CSS (X)HTML valid? Clean code? SEO friendly? Can you have SEO URLS?

Modding/plugin/hack system?

PS. When I edit my post title, it changes in the post view and in the topics view, but not in latest post view. Why is that? Can you change that?

Regards,
Alexander


Edited by Alexander (12/18/06 08:23 AM)
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#170526 - 12/18/06 01:20 PM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: Alexander]
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While we do still have 6.5.5 of UBB.threads in the Members Area it does require the same purchase price as you're not only purchasing the software but access to the members area for a year for any updates.

UBBcentral, Groupee, Infopop, Eve, are all run by the same company, yes.

You could use UBB.threads as a CMS/Portal site. It's not quite as feature rich as a true CMS system, but it can be done. You can add navigation links. There is an example script that allows you to see how to create custom pages that will blend in with the forum setup.

Our price is a bit higher than some. But we have some builtin features that others make you pay for, or are not included such as the portal system.

This theme isn't included in the stock download but it can be downloaded from our Styles Download Forum along with a variety of others. Most have a preview of the style as well.

We're very good on our css/xhtml validation. There are some here on this site, but they aren't in the base code, rather coming from this custom style that is in use. Code has been totally rewritten and very easy to follow. We have search engine friendly URLs as you can see from this setup.

We don't have a plugin system, but we do have an dedicated modification site, at http://www.ubbdev.com.

The post title not changing is more than likely a bug or a cache not being updated, will need to look at that.

Hopefully I got all of your questions. Let me know if you need any clarification on any of them.
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#170573 - 12/19/06 12:03 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: Rick]
Alexander Offline
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Thank you Rick. I am glad to hear that you offer the old download too. But I would probably use the newest version if I bought UBB Threads.

Is there any other way you can get it cheaper than its current price? ($229)

Do you still offer security and bug fixes for old UBB Threads versions?


Edited by Alexander (12/19/06 12:05 AM)
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#170578 - 12/19/06 02:54 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: Alexander]
jgeoff Offline
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The cost is actually pretty reasonable. Not only are you getting direct conversation with the lead developer, who actually listens to your input and suggestions directly -- let alone UBBDev.com which helps with special needs -- you have a very helpful community here to back you up.

I've read the forums of other products - and you have to agree they're often full of (how should I put it...) kinda dumb questions. I haven't seen that here at all. Read through these forums and you'll see...

As for bug fixes - they've been on top of things regularly since I've been involved (about 6 years). Granted, most of the energy goes to the latest versions, but that's understandable.
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#170579 - 12/19/06 03:24 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: jgeoff]
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 Originally Posted By: jgeoff
I've read the forums of other products - and you have to agree they're often full of (how should I put it...) kinda dumb questions.
i answer all questions hehe... ;\)

And I agree, the license fee isn't bad at all, its just the initial license, renewals to member area are also quite reasonable.

As for legacy products, support for UBB.C has died, I don't recall if a EOL has been announced for support of UBB.C6.x however. But you can also always find support for all of the UBB products both here and UBBDev (ether of which you'll have me, your friendly neighborhood spamaholic to keep you company hehe)...
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#170582 - 12/19/06 03:42 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: Gizmo]
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 Originally Posted By: Gizmo
 Originally Posted By: jgeoff
I've read the forums of other products - and you have to agree they're often full of (how should I put it...) kinda dumb questions.
i answer all questions hehe... ;\)


See, I said I couldn't explain it.. haha I didn't mean "dumb questions" per se (cuz there isn't such a thing)... I guess my point is, you'll likely find more *helpful* answers here for your more in-depth questions... ;\)
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#170583 - 12/19/06 03:48 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: jgeoff]
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There are no dumb questions, just those people we hide in the back room when we're whipping the slaves... ;\)
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#170584 - 12/19/06 05:02 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: Gizmo]
Alexander Offline
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Well, I still think the price is a little bit high! I registered for the demo (Is it a downloadble demo or just a demo site?) for like 2 days ago and I still no email.

Argh, I wish this software was free, always has to be so expensive. I mean, I guess I can't afford it. Maybe have to go with another free or cheaper software. I think you should half the price if you wanna compete with vBulletin and Invision Power Board, but that is my opinion.

So if you buy 5 licenses, then it is over $1000, which is alot!!

With a license, are you just allowed to run it on one website and one install? As IPB, vBulletin, FusionBB and all other commercial forums' licenses? I hate that kind of licensing.

Exactly why should I buy this more expensive forum? What does it have that other hasn't?
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#170586 - 12/19/06 05:38 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: Alexander]
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I believe Groupee offers volume pricing when ordering 5+ licenses (from an email i had back with the sales department a year or so back).

One license is for one site, its standard with the type of product.

There are several "why should I buy ubb other than _____" threads on this site, some quick reasons:
The level of support is unmatchable, where else can you talk with the lead developer anytime you need? Where else will you get the style and type of support, let alone have a say in the way the product works? Everyone else is in it for the money, Rick however is the original creator of UBB.threads, it's his baby as it's always been, he wants to see it be the best it can be.
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#170587 - 12/19/06 05:42 AM Re: UBBThreads questions [Re: Gizmo]
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There is one such thread here (first oen i found in this forum, there are several others astrew).

One thing to also keep in mind is that some forum solutions encode their sourcecode with any number of solutions (Zend, IonCube, etc) however with UBB.threads you get direct access to the code which is non-encoded to modify as you wish.
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