http://digg.com/software/PirateReports_revokes_vBulletin_license_of_HongFire_com_for_moral_reasons
http://www.hongfire.com/
http://www.hongfire.com/vbulletin.txt
http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213539
http://blogs.dirtyworker.com/2006/12/23/vbulletin-license-problems/

One of your main competitors vBulletin, have some crazy idiotic license. They say that they have the right to close any site when they don't like the content. As in this site which has loli (anime sex thing), then Jelsoft (or PirateReports) did inactive their license just because they don't wanna be associated with that content.

Please say that UBB Threads don't have that kind of nasty licesing.

There doesn't seem to be any mention of restrictions on the kinds of content.

http://www.ubbcentral.com/terms.php

I am glad if UBB Threads has a honest license. I am actually considering buying UBB Central even though the price is high.

Although it would be a good idea to open up a support ticket with management to be sure about something like this.

I'm ultiamtely sure that groupee doesn't give two toots about what content you run on your site; they're not affiliated with you afterall, you're just simply using their software...

This would be like microsoft flipping out on you for using linux...

Alright, I am awaiting an answer from someone at UBB Central, so I can be 100 % sure about it.

Would be cool if anyone of the staff or support could post in this thread.

If it is like you say Gizmo, then I like it, I like that attitude.

Rick is the sole programmer on UBB.threads, the only other staff from Groupee that I've seen post here is Dave, and he's not on the UBB7 project to the best of my knowledge.

No, once you buy the software it's yours to use on your website. You pay the money for the license and we're not affiliated with the site beyond providing the software that is used. In the 10 years that I've been working on this software that thought has never even entered my mind.

Thank you Rick. I am glad you have a honest license, exactly as it it should be! You buy the software, it isn't affiliated to the forums (quite obvious) and you do whatever you want with it.

PS, if you could lower the pricing, I am sure that would be good for the competition, because this is a great forum, just a little bit expensive! DS.

What does the license exactly do? Gives you the power to install it on a server or one active install? What is it there for?

The analogy that comes to mind for me would be comparing forum software with the file sharing networks that have come under scrutiny for having illegal content available. Yet I sort of think that if a site has illegal content, then law enforcement would go after the forum's owner and not the software vendor.

One active install per license.

Okey, so the UBB Central has no right to inactive the license? If they would then I still could run the software since I payed for it?

They can terminate your license if you don't abide by their agreement and then you would have cease using the software.

Unlike vbulletin, the UBB doesn't even have a way to shut off a license (as there are no callbacks in the software). If you where in violation of the license agreement they would ask you stop using the software, but the only real reason they'd ever do that is if you where giving their softwareout.

So then it is almost like vBulletin.

They can cease the use of the software whenever they want.



Good that there is no callback, bad that they can cease the use of the forumsoftware.

UBB isn't anywhere near as restrictive as what vB is trying to be. Read through the license. It's very basic and seems to only be concerned about piracy of their product.

Well, it might be.
But I would feel concerned about such a policy that UBB Central has the right to do so.

Aye, Piracy is the one thing that every vendor worries about; the Groupee doesn't care what you use their software for, as long as you don't share it

Well, they might do, but how can you be safe as an user?

Read the license is ultimatley all you can do; the Groupee (the UBB authors) don't care what content you have on your site, as it's not their site; I don't see why Jelsoft would alienate you so much as to drive you off due to the content of yoru site (which is of no concern to anyone but the site owner in the first place)

What makes you think a little about this, is if law enforcement will start to go after the software vendors (for providing the vehicle of delivery) of forums that fool with illegal content. I'm wondering what caused vB to jump the gun in this case? Sort of seems like the content in question might be in a grey area that might be a little more difficult to define.

The only restriction that UBB used to have was that they would not support Adult sites (you can use the software on such a site, but there was no support) - I do not know if this is still the case.

Forgive me if I am wrong - but this is what my memory says.

I've worked on plenty of adult sites lately, installs..upgrades, etc. When I'm working on them from home and the wife is around then I just pretend I'm not looking at the pictures

lol, bad rick, bad bad bad! :x...

They any good? :hides in corner: