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#175732 - 01/26/07 06:19 PM Does this make sense?
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What I have done is deactivate PHP as an Apache module as this will
decrease load.


My site http://clubadventist.com/forum/ubbthreads.php works ok until I do anything with it, I get this error..
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No input file specified.


This only happens with my ubb forums, not my SMF forums like http://www.foroadventista.com

weird???
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#175733 - 01/26/07 07:10 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Stan]
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I don't get it. Deactivating php as an apache module implies that he's making you run it as a cgi binary. And that going to DECREASE load?

Stan, RUN, don't walk, to a new hosting provider.
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#175735 - 01/26/07 07:15 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: David Dreezer]
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I was able to turn that back on...

I dread moving....
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#175737 - 01/26/07 07:18 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Stan]
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I understand. I wouldn't be a happy camper if I had to go shopping for a new web host these days. But still......
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#175752 - 01/26/07 07:51 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: David Dreezer]
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lol running PHP as an Apache module will be the fastest option; if your host is saying anything differant they don't know what they're talking about and I too sugguest a fast move.
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#175757 - 01/26/07 08:03 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Gizmo]
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Stan i think your with 1&1

Ive recently got out of there it can be tricky
but it can be done.

I had to leave them as they would not permit MYSQL + 100mb (uk)
And i needed more than that for my forums.

Find a new host, and then reduce your package to domain only.
Obvioulsy everything was backed up and downloaded.

I confused everything my transfering domain names to
diffrent registrants which didnt help,
that should have been step 2 \:\)

Hope that helps.

======
Just rememebered i had to call them to activate
the option to reduce the package via the contracts view.
Its not there by default.


Edited by Mark S (01/26/07 08:07 PM)
Edit Reason: added the little bit of text at the bottom i forgot about.
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#175759 - 01/26/07 08:05 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Mark S]
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Theres a decent sized thread at UBBDev about complaints with 1and1; myself and several others have used them and they're a joke...
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#175785 - 01/26/07 11:06 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Gizmo]
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Thanks for the heads up, trouble is I have the whole server there, and this shuts them all down..

I can point the domain name where elsewhere, and install new software, I just do not know how to move the dadabase to a new area.

I do have a godaddy account, and have a bunch of other domain names that I could also use a temp to get things going... or do a best test...

Need sleep \:\)

Thanks everyone for your comments...
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#175786 - 01/26/07 11:09 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Stan]
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if you actually have a lot of various domains hosted, or are truely renting a server; you should look at a more reputable provider.

For VPS solutions I'd recommend someone like http://www.webintellects.com or http://www.powervps.com; for dedicated servers theres a ton of providers which actually let you run the server as you wish.

As for moving things, you could always hire a webdeveloper to migrate your site(s) for you.
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#175790 - 01/27/07 01:58 AM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Gizmo]
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What CP are you using - with Plesk for example there is a good migration tool built within in.

Otherwise it might be easier to hire someone to do this for you \:\)
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#175795 - 01/27/07 02:13 AM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Ian]
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You know, most of those migration tools are complete pieces of crap lol... just use tar and build a solid archive by hand; at least then you know for certain what is backed up...
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#175802 - 01/27/07 05:29 AM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Gizmo]
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1&$ have there own control panel,
so a import / export of a site via migrate i doubt is possible.

But as Gizmo says about tar it all up \:\)
And you can backup the Databases too.
You may have see there help files to find where that
1 little option is but it can be done.
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#175812 - 01/27/07 12:58 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Mark S]
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I can do a dump of the mysql, i did that of my beta forum http://www.adventistcafe.com and trying to bring it over as a sample move to godaddy. I have created http://www.adventistblog.com to test it.


HOWever I am not sure how to import the database... vie mysqlphp or what ever that is called...

Really appreciate the help...

Ian both 1and1 and godaddy have proprietary control panels
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#175813 - 01/27/07 01:01 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Stan]
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I am not a programmer... and have trouble even spelling that word... \:\)

HOWEVER
It is not clear to me, in the ubb Control panel, where we can back up the database.. why I could not do that, copy it over to new server and then import each of those files..

OR is that possible? One would think if you can back up you can restore?

RIght????
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#175817 - 01/27/07 02:03 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Stan]
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The UBB does have a backup system, however I wouldn't use it...

If you have access to SSH (which any decent host would allow) You can do the following:
MySQL Export: mysqldump -uusername -ppassword database_name > file_to_write.sql
MySQL Import: mysql -h localhost -uusername -ppassword database_name < file_to_insert.sql
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#175827 - 01/27/07 05:06 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Gizmo]
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Or if you go into your 1&1 control pannel
navigate to database managment or phpmyadmin, i think there is a back up
on that page somewhere.

Its over 8 months ago now,
i tryied back then to do what gizmo sugests above,
but it would time out \:\( and no dump.

At the time my DB was v7.0.0 and it was 135mb
so i was over quota by 35mb and this could have
been part of the problem and there constrictions
to perfom normal operations.

You will get there.
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#175828 - 01/27/07 05:08 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Mark S]
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am pretty sure I can dump it, i just don't know how to import it to a new install...
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#175829 - 01/27/07 05:10 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Gizmo]
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 Originally Posted By: Gizmo
The UBB does have a backup system, however I wouldn't use it...

If you have access to SSH (which any decent host would allow) You can do the following:
MySQL Export: mysqldump -uusername -ppassword database_name > file_to_write.sql
MySQL Import: mysql -h localhost -uusername -ppassword database_name < file_to_insert.sql


OK I read this wrong before... may try that...
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#175838 - 01/27/07 09:00 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Stan]
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I would highly advise against using a php script (PHPMyAdmin, the UBB, etc) to create an SQL dump; especially with a large (over 100mb) database (as it will time out or in extreme cases not give you a complete database dump).

Instead, by using SSH (commands provided above) one can create the dump from the MySQL service directly (and it will be created MUCH faster).
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#175859 - 01/28/07 05:00 AM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Gizmo]
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If you are not used to SSH - then download a copy of putty and run that assuming you have command line access to your hosting (not all allow this for security reasons)
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#175880 - 01/28/07 02:40 PM Re: Does this make sense? [Re: Ian]
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IMO if they don't allow you to utilize SSH you should go elsewhere; there are a lot of things that are made so much easier with SSH (creating an SQL dump from the command line for example).

Also, I much prefer the ssh.com client to putty.
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