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#183125 - 04/24/07 10:16 AM Re: Google still not there [Re: Mark S]
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 Originally Posted By: Mark S
So if its working on this forum, that means it has to work on others too.


But it isn't!! That's my point!!! This is not happening on MY Site. Example. Go to this thread:

http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/249302/page/6#Post249302

Ok, this is from back in Feb. Then do a search (with quotes) for "Is there a suspension fluid I can buy over the counter"

How many results do you get? Answer: none! The fact that it is working on THIS site doesn't help me. It is NOT working on My site and that is the problem I am trying to figure out. WHY! If it works here but not there, then it must be something in the way my site is configured compared to this site, or maybe my .htaccess or robots.txt file? I have no idea WHY it is a problem, I only know that it IS a problem and one that I MUST solve!

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#183127 - 04/24/07 10:29 AM Re: Google still not there [Re: Mark S]
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Basil your post are being indexed.
22nd April 2007

I done a search,
see google picture, and then clicked on the link and then
it took me right into that post.

Google is indexing your post, it just takes time.

I think ive answered your questions, in a helpful way,
taken up 2hrs of my time to reasure you also.

Just wait it will come good,
yes its frustrating google at times but it will work out.

Search Criteria =

"britishcarforum.com/bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat"

There isnt many but they are being indexed.

I hope that helps towards a sleepless night ?


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#183128 - 04/24/07 10:32 AM Re: Google still not there [Re: Mark S]
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And now i have a Topic to pick on i can take any text
from that topic and search for it.

WOW a google result \:\)


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#183138 - 04/24/07 11:28 AM Re: Google still not there [Re: Mark S]
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One topic! Ok, thanks for trying. I will wait one moth from THIS post and then lets see if any more besides this are indexed. With over 29,000 threads, there should be more than ONE or TWO that are indexed. But I will give it MORE time and maybe it will start indexing. Right now it is NOT (and I already knew there were one or two). If after a month from now there are not more Threads Indexed, then I know something is wrong with my site (or server)?

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#183144 - 04/24/07 11:49 AM Re: Google still not there [Re: Basil]
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 Originally Posted By: Basil
One topic! Ok, thanks for trying.


Your welcome ;\)

Just think how AIDS got started?
Only took one !
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#183183 - 04/24/07 05:41 PM Re: Google still not there [Re: Mark S]
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And by the way, that one example you posted is one in the non-spider friendly formate (I briefly had my threads in non-spider friendly mode as an experiment). Lets see what things look like in a month.
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#183184 - 04/24/07 06:27 PM Re: Google still not there [Re: Basil]
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3 days ago?
22nd April 2007 - Google Cache date
You can see the cache date in the green URL in the images.
That may be one example but you did ask for one?

From what i can see 91 pages have been indexed on the 21st April,
now that would make sense to me if you have been changing settings.
Google has effectivley been Reset.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=british...0&sa=N&filter=0

Again : your site is being indexed,
any changes you make to day can effect the results 20~30 days down the line.

Ive helped as much as i want to now,
hopefully in a month you will be jumping for joy.
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#183192 - 04/24/07 07:07 PM Re: Google still not there [Re: Basil]
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site:http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum is what I search, I recieve 35.2k pages; not one is from your old forum; a lot are your classifieds and some are your chat, and some other misc things, but there is forum data within...

Again, I am NOT looking at your old install's directory, I AM looking at the NEW install directory.

It's also good to note that google wont' just keep displaying items, after it hits a page limit it'll show the end of a search; i'd love to test it more BUT every time I go clicking new pages it flags me as abusing their servers and i get banned for an hour.

BTW, not all of the data I saw in google was SE friendly URLs, so your searching bcforum/ubbthreads.php/ubb won't show everything, try just searching bcforum like I posted above (be sure it's not filtering content otherwise it'll die well before showing all links).

In any case, no matter what I tell you I'm going to hear that I'm stupid and wrong, hence my refusal to post on this thread.
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#183219 - 04/24/07 09:31 PM Re: Google still not there [Re: Mark S]
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 Originally Posted By: Mark S
3 days ago?
22nd April 2007 - Google Cache date
You can see the cache date in the green URL in the images.
That may be one example but you did ask for one?

From what i can see 91 pages have been indexed on the 21st April,
now that would make sense to me if you have been changing settings.
Google has effectivley been Reset.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=british...0&sa=N&filter=0

Again : your site is being indexed,
any changes you make to day can effect the results 20~30 days down the line.

Ive helped as much as i want to now,
hopefully in a month you will be jumping for joy.


Actually, I had my site in non-spider mode only briefly way back in Jan, so in fact I guess I can't explain that thread you posted since on that date since it would have been in spider-friendly mode. As for your help - thanks, I really do appreciate it.

I'm not trying to argue anything here or be difficult with anyone but the fact is, Google is not indexing my THREADS the way I had hoped and the result is VERY obvious. I have been running my site for seven years now and I know what kind of traffic I had been getting from Google searches and that has dropped to almost nothing since January. I will give it another month and then revisit this thread. If I still have little or no actual THREADS indexed then perhaps someone can hel me figure out why. If you are correct and I have lots more threads indexed, then you are correct that I will jump for joy. I honestly hope you are right.

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#183220 - 04/24/07 10:17 PM Re: Google still not there [Re: Gizmo]
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Gizmo, I never ever said you were stupid - please don't put those words in my mouth. In the first place, I don’t talk to anyone like that, especially someone who I know is trying to help me – and I know that you are. But at the same time, I am pretty sure that I'm not stupid either (BSEE, MS Computer Science, MBa). I'm a 53 year old Senior Analyst who has been working on computers since they used vacuum tubes and magnetic ferrite core memory. I think the problem is simply that I am not effectively communicating my concern here. Yes, I know that SOME things in my new install directory are being indexed, such as post lists, classifieds, etc. But what is NOT being indexed (or not very much at least) are my actual Threads (yes I know that one or two are there – but that’s it). For example, if you do a Google on THIS site like this:

[site:http://www.ubbcentral.com +ubb/showflat] (without the brackets) this is a legitimate Google search that looks for any URLs that are in http://www.ubbcentral.com site and which contain “ubb/showflat” in the URL, which would ONLY happen for threads that are in the spider-friendly mode. So, when you do that Google search for THIS site you get over 1200 returns. But do the same thing for my forum like this: site:http://www.britishcarforum.com +ubb/showflat and it only returns about 2 links (or four if you show those omitted). If there were more than those few in Google, that search should show them just as it does for THIS site. My site IS in spider friendly mode and has been except for a very brief period back in January. Doing a search for http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcforum will show all sorts of links, that is a fact - but these are all (or mostly) things other than threads themselves. Even Rick agrees that there is something fishy going on with my site and Google (see his reply in this thread a few pages back).

Ok, so all that said, I am convinced that Google is not indexing my THREADS like it should be. Why this is happening I have no idea, which is driving me crazy. Maybe it is just that I am not being patient enough since it has only been about 4 months since the change to the new threads. I have heard that Google recently changed their algorithms, so maybe it is just going to take longer than I expected – time will tell. So, rather than beat a dead horse, I will cool my jets for another month and then see how many actual threads are shown from the new install. If there are significantly more than the one or two that show up now, I will be VERY happy. But if there are still only one or two as currently show up, then I will be convinced beyond any doubt that something is wrong with my site. I don’t think it it a problem with Threads 7 because lots of threads show up for this site. I am thinking it is something in the way I have my pages configured, or maybe screwed up Meta Tags, or .htaccess or robots.txt problem, or maybe even something in my server config. But like I said, I will drop the discussion for now and give it another month then reassess. Fair enough?

Cheers,
Basil

PS: In the meantime, if I figure out a solution I will certainly post it here.
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