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#192058 - 07/19/07 08:35 PM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Gizmo]
Architecht Offline
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I don't mind them being there, I'm just assuming that all the thrashing going on indicates something bad as it's seems inefficient on its face.
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#192067 - 07/19/07 10:43 PM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Architecht]
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Well, there are some "black holes", such as the calendar, where they can go up day by day into oblivion, but that's an easy fix with robots.txt:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=calendar
Disallow: /forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/calendar
Disallow: /forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showday
Disallow: /forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showday
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#192080 - 07/19/07 11:47 PM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Gizmo]
teamzr1 Offline
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I never in almost 10 years with a forum online have had one person who registered by having gone through one of those ISPs.
In any case what they are charging their customers as a product is our content we not only produce but pay for the domain and webhosting costs


 Originally Posted By: Gizmo
Actually, I feel the opposite, I feel we shoudl pay them... Think of it, they download our pages for their DB, their users search their database and they send their users to our site, which tend to register and click advertising links which in turn make us money... For those of us who advertise anyway...

Now, if you want to stop them from visiting your site at all, you can, it's what robots.txt is for, just stop them from visiting your forums and never worry about them again (though you'll soon notice traffic decreases, and some sites depend on search engines for new users)
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#192081 - 07/19/07 11:50 PM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: teamzr1]
Gizmo Online   cat

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You've never had a user who's come to your site through a search engine and registered? Somehow I find that hard to believe, unless theres some really un-searched for content on your site...

IF you want to block SE's all together, just add this to your robots.txt:
User-agent: *
Disallow: /

They'll never touch your site again (so long as they follow the robots.txt standard, which most major ones do)

Honestly though, the max BW i've ever seen wasted by SE's in a month is about a gig; and this was on a huge site with loads of content that bankrolls about 4k+ a month due to advertising and depends on search engines...
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#193638 - 08/02/07 01:21 AM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Architecht]
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Loc: Garland, TX
 Originally Posted By: Architecht
50 bots would be nice. Right now I have 171 bots on my site, by far most of them are yahoo. And this is ALL The time.

http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=online

There's just got to be something wrong with that.


Yahoo is a pig. Googlebot and the others are nowhere near as bad as Yahoo is. I've been doing this since 1995, so I have some idea of what I'm talking about. \:\)

Right now I have 4 registered users on, 6 guests, and 135 spiders. Almost all of them are Yahoo from various IP addresses - as was pointed out that's not one spider stuck, that's a ton of them. There's no reason why they should be that friggin piggish.

Makes me wonder if I shouldn't do something like this to them.

However, Yahoo's own help has some ideas:

http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/search/webcrawler/slurp-03.html
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#193639 - 08/02/07 02:08 AM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Joe Siegler]
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I will agree that the crawler delay option they mention would be a valid way to slow down pounding; thanks for the link Joe :).

There are some areas of the UBB that spiders will get stuck in (as mentioned in the faq), the calendar is one of them, as are member files (neither of which need to be crawled).
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#193756 - 08/03/07 11:31 AM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Gizmo]
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Look at this.

http://www.black-sabbath.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=online

Right now I have 3 users, 10 guests, and 162 friggin search spiders. The overhelming majority are Yahoo. I implemented the delay option, it didn't seem to make much of a difference. \:\(

My Texas Rangers site isn't nearly as bad. 1 user (me), 0 guests, and 9 spiders (all but one are Yahoo). Sigh.

http://www.rangerfans.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=online

Unless I did it wrong, but I don't think so.
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#193773 - 08/03/07 07:27 PM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Joe Siegler]
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Lol, 160 yahoo spiders is nothing; I had 500 the one night lol
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#193785 - 08/03/07 11:53 PM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: Gizmo]
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I added a delay to robots.txt
its in the root oy my domain

User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin/

User-agent: Slurp
Crawl-delay: 5

Has not slowed down Yahoo slurp ( which must mean they are saying they want to suck up everyones content ) one bit
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#193791 - 08/04/07 05:52 AM Re: Yahoo pounds our board continuously? Anyone else? [Re: teamzr1]
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Well, they don't check robots.txt every time they request something; they request it at a set interval that can take up to a few weeks to pass.
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