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#193238 - 07/28/07 09:21 PM Views count
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What causes the views count to a thread to not update or is it a long delay before it is updated

I watched a thread that 5 people had read yet 30 minutes later the views count is still at zero ?
I myself read the thread 3 times and still count is at zero


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#193241 - 07/28/07 10:36 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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I believe it should update a set period of time as to not pound the database; I'm not sure what this timeframe is offhand however.
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#193244 - 07/28/07 10:43 PM Re: Views count [Re: Gizmo]
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I wrote a post at 3:45 PM today,
at 7:45 PM the views count is still at zero yet who is online has shown several have read that thread

Does it not count those who are not logged in ?
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#193245 - 07/28/07 11:09 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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Odd, I'm relatively sure that it should have updated in a 4 hour period lol...

As for if it tallies guest, I'm pretty sure it does; but I could be wrong
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#193247 - 07/28/07 11:53 PM Re: Views count [Re: Gizmo]
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It is now over 5 hours and the view count for that 1 thread is still zero, yet even more have read that thread.
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#193278 - 07/29/07 12:19 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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it is now 18 hours and still this thread reports ZERO views so this is some type of bug with V 7.2 and now tells me why many threads report view views on most other threads \:\(

http://teamzr1.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1872#Post1872
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#193293 - 07/29/07 05:40 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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The thread view counters only update whenever a post is added. So, if you make a post, and then no other post is made for 12 hours, but many views, those views won't be added until another post is actually made.
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#193300 - 07/29/07 06:13 PM Re: Views count [Re: Rick]
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I was going to say that lol ;\)
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#193303 - 07/29/07 06:40 PM Re: Views count [Re: Mark S]
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Yes I find this bug indeed will not update a threads "views" counter as long as it is the newest posting.

Once a newer post is made and only then does the views counter stuck at zero change but even then these counters are not correct.
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#193312 - 07/29/07 07:41 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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Ahh, here I was thinking it would update automagically after an hour or so :hangs head in shame:
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#193314 - 07/29/07 07:56 PM Re: Views count [Re: Gizmo]
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Worse is the views counter worked for that thread one time when a new thread was done but then stopped again
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#193685 - 08/02/07 05:33 PM Re: Views count [Re: Gizmo]
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Do you know when it will be changed so that it updates views counter when one views a post and not when another post is actually made? People need to see activity for a post before they click on it.
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#193696 - 08/02/07 07:03 PM Re: Views count [Re: Alex_Pro]
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Well I don't recall seeing anywhere where Rick said it would be changed. On a busy site it would update often already. If you have a slow site then yes maybe some type of timer would be in order.

From my understanding it does not have to be a post in the same thread. Any post anywhere on the board will increment the count (I think).
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#193702 - 08/02/07 07:14 PM Re: Views count [Re: ntdoc]
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It's a post anywhere on the forum, so I don't see why this would need updating... It'd totally thrash a forum to make it every time the forum is accessed, and you'd end up with curruption to your tables if it was changed back to avoid the current caching...
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#193704 - 08/02/07 07:16 PM Re: Views count [Re: ntdoc]
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This is a bug and one that effects all posts
I have monitored closely my forum and posts written days ago even after new posts have been done are still at zero or 1 count.

This makes the whole forum look dead and I have watched the who's online to see many users reading posts yet the views counts of many posts still not increasing those counters
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#193708 - 08/02/07 07:22 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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are your users not posting? Once a post is made (anywhere) it should update the postcounts (for all posts).

The caching mechanism logs when someone accesses a post, and stores it in a 'memory' table, which is completely temporary; when a post is made, it merges all content of the temporary table with the post table.

Before this caching mechanism was in place, there was major corruption of the posts table, so in order to save content in the db from being corrupted, this was added in place.

So long as users make posts, the tables should be updated automatically.
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#193714 - 08/02/07 07:28 PM Re: Views count [Re: Gizmo]
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It has to be updating. Look at your gallery forum and see all of the View counts. They are definitely updating there as you have a variety of view counts.

You can monitor the ubbt_TOPIC_VIEWS table to see what the cached views look like. This holds all of the cached views until a post is made.
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#193722 - 08/02/07 07:40 PM Re: Views count [Re: Rick]
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Rick how do I monitor that field ?

Looking at ubbt_TOPIC_VIEWS with phpmyadmin all I can see is

Row Statistics Statements Value
Format fixed
Collation latin1_swedish_ci
Rows 14
Row length ø 8
Row size ø 598,018 B

Space usage Type Usage
Data 4,088 KiB
Index 4,088 KiB
Total 8,176 KiB

Those images are a month old, many posts written a week ago are still at only a few counts
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#193724 - 08/02/07 07:42 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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click "browse" within phpmyadmin on this table, and you can see all 14 values that are in it.
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#193727 - 08/02/07 07:46 PM Re: Views count [Re: Gizmo]
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I have no idea what this means when I browsed


row(s) starting from record #
in horizontal horizontal (rotated headers) vertical mode and repeat headers after cells
Sort by key: topic_ndx (Ascending) topic_ndx (Descending) None TOPIC_ID
959
881
169
329
867
331
369
682
331
447
4
5
327
890
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#193729 - 08/02/07 07:52 PM Re: Views count [Re: teamzr1]
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Each number represents a topic; every time it is displayed, that is one view for that topic.
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