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#213254 - 05/23/08 12:12 AM Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3)
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In 7.2, people were able to post Japanese/Chinese characters in the Forums.

It seems that in 7.3 this is not possible. Or is there a switch/setting somewhere where I can enable this?

Thank you
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#213278 - 05/23/08 10:54 AM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: willing]
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This all depends on the encoding for the language file being used. If the encoding in the generic.php language file is the default then those characters won't display properly. If it's set to the proper japanese/chinese encoding then they should.
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#213318 - 05/24/08 03:18 AM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: Rick]
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Would I be ok to set it to a Japanese-compatabile encoding in the generic.php file for my English settings? (I don't want to mess up the default English settings!)

(Like I said, this was working in 7.2, I suppose I might have changed that way back but I don't have records of that).

Thank you.
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#213325 - 05/24/08 10:03 AM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: willing]
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As long as the latin characters are in the character set you should be fine; I change mine to UTF-8 whenever I upgrade.
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#213326 - 05/24/08 10:31 AM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: Gizmo]
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Thank you I will try that on Monday. Need a rest right now!
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#213345 - 05/24/08 03:28 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: Gizmo]
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Originally Posted By: Gizmo
I change mine to UTF-8 whenever I upgrade.

Out of curiosity, what's the advantage of UTF-8 over the default iso-8859-1?
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#213364 - 05/24/08 09:17 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: jgeoff]
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Extended characters... It won't effect most English sites as their characters exist within both iso-8859-1 and UTF-8. IF you've used one in the past, you should keep using it, as the data stored one will at times come out b0ged in the other: clicky
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#213371 - 05/24/08 10:38 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: Gizmo]
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I just looked at my updated file:

iso-8859-1

and the original 7.2 backup file I have:

iso-8859-1

Any other ideas there?!

Perhaps I should change it to UTF-8?

Thanks for the help. smile
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#214017 - 06/05/08 09:39 AM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: willing]
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Since I have upgraded to 7.3 version I am really struggling to get Croatians characters working on my forum. Any advice?
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#214065 - 06/05/08 08:36 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2, can't in 7.3) [Re: Markus_003]
willing Offline
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I am still having problems on ours (as above).

Japanese characters just not working - worked in 7.2.2

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#214920 - 06/26/08 01:35 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: willing]
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Looks like the charset defaulted to iso-8859-1 with the upgrade from 7.3 to 7.3.1.

Problem is that I don't remember what it was set to in 7.3. But I had no problems with foreign languages (Greek, Cyrillic and Chinese). If I just reset it to UTF-8 what problems will it cause, if any? Or is there a way to go and look what is stored somewhere in the database?
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#214954 - 06/27/08 10:04 AM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: Jake]
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The default, with the UBB, will always be iso-8859-1, when you overwrite your language files for an upgrade, it'll overwrite your setting (I really wish it was set in the CP vs language file)...

I have UTF-8 set on my forums; there isn't any problem other than characters set in the one charset that don't exist in the other. They'll come out looking "odd"
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#215080 - 07/02/08 09:37 AM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: Gizmo]
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Questions:

1. After the upgrade to 7.3.1 if I go to Control Panel > Languages there is no language listed (I expected English). Shouldn't English be listed? How do I resolve this?

2. If I click on the "Language Editor" tab there is nothing in the pull-down. If I choose "Choose Specific Language File:" and choose "admin/languageeditor.php" (or really anything) and click "Go" I get a white screen. How do I resolve this?

My upgrade was from 7.2 to 7.3.1 and it went smoothly.
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#215107 - 07/02/08 09:57 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: Jake]
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Dumb question; did you upload languages/english when you installed your forum?
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#215644 - 07/20/08 05:57 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: Gizmo]
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Gizmo,

Thanks for asking and sorry I missed your question until now.

Yes, all directories were uploaded including languages/english when I upgraded from 7.2 to 7.3.1 (and there were no upgrade errors). Just checked and all files appear to be there.

Ideas? I could reinstall 7.3.1? Would reinstalling 7.3.1 over 7.3.1 cause any issues?

Thanks!

Jake
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#215685 - 07/21/08 08:55 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: Jake]
Jake Offline
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OK. I did a trouble ticket. Turned out to be a permission problem.

So I can see and search the language files.

But now I can't find where to change the character set. Under "Language Editor" I searched all files for "character set", "iso", "utf" and "encoding" ("encode"). Nothing was returned. Search is working since I can find other things.

Ideas? I still want to switch back to UTF-8.

Thanks!
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#215688 - 07/21/08 09:01 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: Jake]
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languages/english/generic.php

'iso' worked for me -- don't use quotes..
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#215692 - 07/21/08 09:39 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: SD]
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Sirdude,

That did it. I changed the file manually and uploaded it. I was expecting that I could search the language files. I seem to remember that in earlier versions, but could be wrong.

Thanks again!

Jake
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#215695 - 07/21/08 09:53 PM Re: Non English characters display (could in 7.2 & 7.3, can't in 7.3.1) [Re: Jake]
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you should be able to. i put in iso and hit the search button and it pulled up generic.php..

dunno why yours didn't

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