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#197818 - 09/20/07 11:59 PM Twiceler, how I loathe thee...
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Registered: 06/04/06
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Well, I've gone the last 3 days with UGN down, the culprit? The constant indexing and re-indexing from my little supposed "friend" Twiceler...

Twiceler is a supposed "new search engine" which just doesn't exist... why they have to constantly reindex I have no clue, but it does nothing more than RAPE my bandwidth...

It was ok for a while, just a little here, and a little there... Then I started going in and looking at my weblogs... 5+gb of unknown bandwidth usage that had to be cut down... And what a better time than being held offline due to a flood of traffic...

I finally get back online, and check the resources in current use... There's my "friend" Twiceler... with 8 threads just chumming away...

You all know me, the guy who says "well, if they have the money for this many servers they HAVE to be making something good, just wait it out"... Tonight, I'm no longer the passive voice of reason, Twiceler is a waste of my time, resources, and money.

Ways of BANNING Twiceler.

Robots.txt is the quickest way to ban robots, BUT not all check back immediately, there can be a several day, week, or month passive check on their cache; so if it can wait, oh well, here you go...

Robots.txt
 Code:
User-agent: twiceler
Disallow: /


.htaccess (apache, you should also be able to define this in your httpd.conf)
here, we ban their IP's! These class C's are actually provided on their website, so we can easily ban them with 3 sections (note, you only need to turn the rewrite engine "on" ONCE in your .htaccess file)
 Code:
RewriteEngine on
# Deny users IP's #
order allow,deny
deny from 38.99.13.
deny from 64.1.215.
deny from 208.36.144.
allow from all


Ban the U/A in your .htaccess
These lines will have your webserver ban the useragent before they can even access your site.
 Code:
RewriteEngine on
# Block Bad Bots #
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} cuill\.com [OR]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} Twiceler [OR]
RewriteRule .* - [F,L]


3 ways to show our "good friend" Twiceler some good old-fashioned "hard love"...
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#197830 - 09/21/07 09:47 AM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: Gizmo]
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Can you send the bots back to cuill.com? Hopefully we can get it to fold in on itself.
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#197861 - 09/21/07 03:50 PM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: AllenAyres]
Gizmo Moderator Offline


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'eh you can send a forward request, but I'd bet that their bots are configured to ignore their homepage ;\)
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#197875 - 09/21/07 09:14 PM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: Gizmo]
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hmmm... we need to create a black hole web site to forward them to - a site that only uses the images and css sheets from cuill.com and just sends the bot back and forth over 2-3 pages, the page changes content just barely everytime it's accessed. The bot would think there were billions of pages to index. ;\)
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#197879 - 09/22/07 12:02 AM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: AllenAyres]
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'eh would waste your wn bw :/
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#198015 - 09/24/07 06:03 AM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: Gizmo]
Mark S Offline
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Registered: 07/04/06
Posts: 3983
Loc: Liverpool : England : UK
I know you guy are trying to block it etc.
But in my post i just sent them an e-mail
and it never came back again ;\)

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#198026 - 09/24/07 09:48 AM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: Mark S]
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This topic has been getting a lot of visits from various search engines. Topic is only 4 days old, and looking in the referer logs there are at least 100 hits from people coming from google or yahoo.
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#198049 - 09/24/07 06:39 PM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: Rick]
Gizmo Moderator Offline


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If you simply search for issues you'll find plenty of them... I have heard of plenty of users asking for it to be blacklisted and they just don't care, or will return after a while; so I decided to take a more direct approach and force it to never return...

And I'm glad to hear of the popularity! lol...
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#216291 - 08/07/08 11:21 AM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: Gizmo]
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Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 943
Loc: UK
Update on this. Maybe you shouldn't block this any more as it is being used by a new Google rival - Cuil.

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#216294 - 08/07/08 11:43 AM Re: Twiceler, how I loathe thee... [Re: ScriptKeeper]
driv Offline
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Posts: 1568
Loc: Essex, UK
Google has a rival?
Bigger, better?

So was Betamax.... wink
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