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#227752 - 07/22/09 08:14 AM Moderator vs Administrator?
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Hi all,

As i said before i/we are running the ancient UBB 6.2.0. And I have not yet suggested to the site owner that we upgrade to a better version.

Do the updated versions allow the admins to appoint mods who have limited authority? Meaning that i'd like to give some members the ability to ban spammers but i wouldn't want to give them access to the PMs of other users. I'd want to give them limited authority without giving them full authority.

If and when i got our forum running proper again i'm sure we could use the assistance of other users as mods who could delete spammers/bots etc. But i'd rather them have assistant moderator status as opposed to full admin status. I'd prefer to reserve full Admin status for myself and the site owner.

Any thoughts? Is my question clear?

(thanks in advance)
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#227755 - 07/22/09 12:57 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: tacks]
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In answer to your post using ubbthreads 7.5.3
Moderators work the same as in classic for moderating forums.
You can allow moderators access to the control panel but they are pretty much limited to member management. They can ban a member, Resend passwords and change several user settings. They don't have access to PM's or other moderators or admins.

On the subject of PM's the only person that can access them is .
1. Whoever has access to the MYSQL tables.
2. Admins only have the ability to become a member in the member management area of the control panel. Then that person could view PMs the normal method a user has.

As far as passwords nobody can see a password as it is encrypted

Like I believe I said before you can setup a demo at this site for a couple of days to see these options for yourself.

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#227756 - 07/22/09 01:32 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: Ruben]
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Thanks Ruben!!!! smile

Originally Posted By: Ruben
Like I believe I said before you can setup a demo at this site for a couple of days to see these options for yourself.


And i'm sorry for you having to repeat yourself for me. Ooops! frown
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#227757 - 07/22/09 01:32 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: tacks]
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#227758 - 07/22/09 01:32 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: Ruben]
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I don't think that a moderator has access to "become" a member with the "edit user" permission in reguards to access to the CP; I think you'd have to grant them the "Full Access" permission to do so (which I dont' know anyone would do such a thing for a "mod").

v7.3+ (I think it was 7.3 or 7.4) there is a built in "Global Moderator" position which is like an admin without the CP access; there are also granular permissions for just about any task so you can ultimately customize groups with what type of access you'd want people to have who belong to them.

In short, just setup the global moderator group to have edit user permissions and assign people to that position to weed out trolls; as long as they don't have "full cp access" permissions enabled they won't be able to "become user" and read PM's.
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#227759 - 07/22/09 01:40 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: Gizmo]
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Keep forgetting about global moderators. Since I don't use it.
But the same rules apply to them in the control panel. You can allow full access. Which might as well be a admin. Or limited access.
But anyway Giz. A moderator can't edit any other mod or admin. Nor can they become a member. At least in v7.5.3 because I checked it.
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#227761 - 07/22/09 01:45 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: Ruben]
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Thanks to both of you!
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#227762 - 07/22/09 02:54 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: tacks]
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Ruben, have you tried becoming a member with the "full access" tick? I'm pretty sure that's the gravy to making it so any group can become a user...
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#227763 - 07/22/09 03:08 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: Gizmo]
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No, I have never set a moderator group to full access to the control panel on a live board.
I have tested it but still there are some small limitations.
It is misleading that they have full access to the control panel when in fact they don't.
Even though it appears that all items in the control panel are accessible there are some things that are not.
The moderators still don't have access to "become a member"
But they have access to change the paths, mysql login, etc
Like I said it seems to me then they might as well be set to a admin if you wish a member to have full access.
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#227766 - 07/22/09 03:41 PM Re: Moderator vs Administrator? [Re: Ruben]
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Yeh, I don't really like the full access concept, I figure if they need full access they'd be an admin tongue
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