These things have never been in the ground. I\'ve added 18 inches of # 3 kinkless chain via a crunch proof swivel to the factory chain and terminated the whole thing with a fox hollow finned super stake and had all connections welded, therefore you are looking at the equivalent of finesse coupled with the potential for total disaster if you ever get a finger in these things, I love em but they scare me- going back to my 4 coiled NWoods.