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#130558 10/28/2001 9:33 PM
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In the members area you will find a bug fix update for both the PHP (5.4.6) and PERL (5.4.5) versions. This basically revolved around people being able to manipulate some environment variables and change some of the post information. The PHP update also contains all of the bug fixes found on the official bug fixes forum to this point.

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#130559 10/29/2001 8:00 AM
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Am I right in thinking there was no PHP V5.4.5?

And if (as I suspect!) I'm wrong, since 5.4.5 is no longer available from the Members' Area, is there any problem with going from V5.4.4 to V5.4.6? For example, was there a V5.4.4-to-V5.4.5 altertable script?

Thanks.

[This message was edited by David Anderson on 29 Oct 01 at 04:26 AM.]

#130560 10/29/2001 1:04 PM
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There was a PHP 5.4.5 release but it was short lived. No problems going from 5.4.4 to 5.4.6. No altertables to run, just some bug fixes and a few program changes to prepare for the upcoming installer/upgrade scripts.

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#130561 10/30/2001 1:53 AM
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Rick,

You may have posted this elsewhere, but I've not had a chance to really browse these new forums yet. Will this auto update script work with heavily modified version of the script? In other words, are we going to be forced to remove all hacks prior to upgrading in the future? Or will this auto updater validate files in some manner that can preserve altered code?

I get the impression that this updater will only work with vanilla installs of the script.

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Unfortunately the update script will only work with unaltered versions. It's going to start out being fairly basic, transfer your files over, run the updater and it will check if there are any altertables to run and in what order. If there are hacks to the code then you'll still need to manually make these changes. It would be nice to be able to have it work with hacked versions but that wouldn't really be possible since sometimes code gets totally moved around, deleted, etc.

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#130563 10/30/2001 2:02 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><hr /><font size="" face="">Originally posted by Rick Baker:
Unfortunately the update script will only work with unaltered versions. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="" face="">Sorry, that's a bad decision. A very loud message is being sent to the hackers that their input is no longer welcome.

You should put out 2 alternatives; brain-dead automatic AND manual for those who prefer personal control.

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#130564 10/30/2001 3:07 PM
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i don't know if this is how it should be done. it promts the user for ugrade certain files or do full install. but when upgrading, you click on upgrade and the script knows what scripts have changed and ONLY changes those scripts. If there is hacks, or it will automatically add adduser.php.bak if that script is updated. all altertables and stuff if needed will be run also. i hear that gossamer-threads linksql has a great upgrade install script. you should head over there and ask about it. i was reading that it is pretty advanced. all i am saying is multiple options for everyone, to the begining user to the advanced user.

why is everyone allowed to make a new post in this board?

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#130565 10/30/2001 3:38 PM
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Eileen,

The normal way of upgrading will always be there. For those experienced enought to hack their forums it will be just as easy to go about upgrading the way you always have. Update your files like normal and then run the altertable scripts.

What I'm trying to do with the installer/upgrade scripts is to help those that aren't really computer savvy. They normally don't hack their boards, they just want it to run.

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#130566 10/30/2001 9:44 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><hr /><font size="" face="">Originally posted by Rick Baker:

The normal way of upgrading will always be there. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="" face="">Phew! That's a relief.

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#130567 10/30/2001 9:50 PM
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Okay, good to know. Thanks Rick! I just wanted to be sure that we can still go about upgrading the old fashioned way.

This brings me to a question to those who hack their forums - does anyone know of a really good freeware file merger? Araxis has the best product I have ever seen, but I'm not about to pay $124 for a single license for a product I use a handful of times every few months.

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Are you looking for a text comparison tool?

You might want to try Beyond Compare, it's $30 for a single license last I looked and there was a 30 day free demo as well.

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#130569 10/31/2001 5:30 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="">quote:</font><hr /><font size="" face="">Originally posted by Rick Baker:
The normal way of upgrading will always be there. For those experienced enought to hack their forums it will be just as easy to go about upgrading the way you always have. Update your files like normal and then run the altertable scripts.

</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="" face="">I thought the best solution for such an issue is to develop a Plugin/Addon standards like the PHP-Nuke had done for a while. So most of the hacks should obey the hacking guidelines and when a new version was released, it won't be too hard to upgrade the whole forum system.

Thus, you might not need any comparision tools.
Or for those hacked UBBThreads forum owners, it should be always a nightmare to upgrade their system to a newer version. At least, to me it was.

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#130570 10/31/2001 7:47 PM
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I like Danny's idea, I manually upgrade every time. This is why it takes so long. But the problem with that sort of solution is, you cannot really change/enahnce existing features that way. You can only add new features. I'm all for this concept still however because it could opewn the door for some truly unique and wonderful new features - like built in chat systems, calendar scripts, etc.

But for the time being I'll be happy with being able to mnaually edit the source as we always have.

Thanks David for the link. I'll definitely check it out!


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