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#1432 07/19/2006 2:56 PM
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Hi everyone,

where can I choose another Language? We have two languages avaiable at our CP but I can not find something tho choose for the users....

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In version 7 whatever the board is set to for the default language is what the users will see. The reason we had to remove the users ability to use a different language is because various things are cached now, and we do plan to cache more.

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OK, thank you Rick smile

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Rick, thats a very bad. I set up my old threads board to english to give international users the chance to navigate and read. But I have more then 90% german users.

So if I setup my board to german as default I annoy any other user world width. They find me with google, see a non english board and leave.

The reducement to only one language for all made it easy for a coder. While I do my translation I start to wonder how to set up the portal page. It changes the language only if you visit the control panel. Now I know whats going on.

After all the positive things in Threads 7 this is the first very big negative.


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This is a shame - the only way around this Zarzal is to have two forums set-up - both using the same database with one set to German and the other to English. You could have a /english and /german

Can't see why that shouldn't work.

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You can use the same style, picture and template path but you have to maintain 2 setups. You also have to setup an intro page who let the user select wich language he like to use. Thats a hobby coder workaround.

We start to discuss the theme in our boards. Up to 90% like to decide themself wich language they use. We people who speak german only, we have a handful native english members and some who like to switch.

When I search with google and hit a native france board I have to leave because I cant understand what they say. English is in internet the prime language and should be default for international sites but you may have a option to switch to your native language too.


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I like to bring this back on table.

Rick, is this final, that a user can decie witch language he will use?

We have in europe countrys with more then one language. Look at switzerland: german, italien and french. I have questions from such a sysop of an V6.5 multilanguage board. He run german and frensh and like to know what to do in V7.

I think this a problem for many boards. If V7 goes final only with admin selectable language several boards runs in trouble with it userbase.


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Originally Posted by Zarzal
We have in europe countrys with more then one language. Look at switzerland: german, italien and french. I have questions from such a sysop of an V6.5 multilanguage board. He run german and frensh and like to know what to do in V7.
Yes and one talks in Switzerland also into three languages!!!


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Will be worked on this for future versions? All major boards offer this feature for user selectable languages and UBB6.x too (with bugs) I cant understand the step bacck for this version 7.

I talked with some users on my forum and they are not very happy that he cant change the language anymore.

After getting some old hacks and add-ons like Photopost this is the only leftover pice wich block a possible conversion to V7.


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It's possible this will come back in a future version, the only sticking point is caching. We'd need to find a workaround for all of the cached data, since it's cached in the board specified language. With all of the information we're displaying it would be way too slow to try and serve it all dynamically. All of the actual buttons in the posts for edit,reply, quote, etc are all actual image files so unless we revert back to text buttons for everything, not sure how we'd get around that.

So, it hasn't been totally scratched for a future release if I can figure out a way to do it without affecting performance.

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I can understand that this is not easy to handle in cache systems. What do you think about creating a cache for each language in separeted directories?

The workaround of the language switch problem is now to setup more then one board for the same database in different directories. Each setup in its own language. With this you have to setup a portal page who let the user decide witch language he like. Just a workaround but maybe a begin of a possible integrated solution.


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Rick just pointed me to that thread from where's the U_Bio & language field? [rc1] . If I knew that before...

I've got the same problem, running one forum in German, English and Spanish with one installation. This means we have to close two of the forums, or stay with v6.5. I don't like both ideas either. This was an important feature of ubb.threads.

The only way I see is to use different cache directorys. It doesn't make sense to maintain two ore more installations of ubb.threads.


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What I'm hoping/thinking to do for 7.1 is having the language strings included dynamically in the cached files. I'm doing this now for the style settings. This will require moving some of the language strings around and should allow for us to bring back the multiple language options.

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Sounds good... I have several clients from UBB.C who where looking forward to this option in upgrding to a UBB.T...


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Originally Posted by Rick
... should allow for us to bring back the multiple language options.
I appreciate that!

Another problem regarding the language, is there a chance the post button images will be changed back to text with a small icon? That would make it much easier for the people running multilanguage sites. I'm just asking to know if I have to modify this by myself, or if there is a chance to see this coming back in v7.1.


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If I can find a way to use some CSS to make them look halfway decent, then yeah, these will probably revert back to text, maybe with just the little image next to each one. Can't say for sure at this point though.

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Originally Posted by Maze
That's good news. Thanks, Rick!


I agree, I was kinda bummed when I realized that this was one of the features that didn't make it in (especially since the private group was helping with initial feature requests)


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done in V7.1 and worked well.


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