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I was toolin around with the shout box and the layout of it to make it fit more to my liking... maybe make a more "chat room" like feeling to it and place it at the top of the forums -OR- create a new page with just the shout box to make it even more like a chat room.

I was looking at the java script and thought that adding some text formatting like color, bold face and a smilies button would put it over the top! I played with it but I could only get the "controls" appear but they would not apply to the text input. Does anyone know how to take the text formatting and smilies and apply it to the shout box? I know it can be done but I am not a coding whiz... just a humble diesel mechanic that knows a little HTML and PHP. smile Can anyone hook me up?


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Would love to help but think I'm in the same boat as you, just too new at this software. There is a development board though that does a bunch of hacks to the software.

I'm sure one of these guys can help you out when they have time.

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Personally, I'd like to see what's running the shoutbox turned into an integrated chat page complete with chat logs.

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Could be interesting to say the least; for those of you who want a full chat addon to UBB.T7, there are two seperate options at UBBDev; one which utilizes IRC as the backend service (you can set any server you wish) and another which uses one of raidersoft's services (I'm pretty sure i just butchered their company name)


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I was using the free Raidersoft (you had it right this time) chat integration.

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Is Raidersoft an IRC ? Most of the hosting sites have a pet peeve about letting you run IRC.

Hopefully though I'll be needing something if all goes well with the new site.

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Most of my users use our IRC chat through actual IRC clients, so i figured building the integration file for IRC at UBBDev was the only real answer to cater to it... But after I did that I decided I wanted a full IRC page that includes help information, so i did my big section at my site lol...


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Raidersoft isn't an IRC. They remotely host the chat window for you. All you have to do is sign up for a free account and then paste some HTML into your chat page.

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Thanks Harold. I'm sure I'll be checking into this stuff more and more as I build my new site.

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Originally Posted by Harold
Raidersoft isn't an IRC. They remotely host the chat window for you. All you have to do is sign up for a free account and then paste some HTML into your chat page.
I know that, I was referring to the OTHER chat modification at ubbdev, the one I did wink...


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Also, IRC is one of the oldest chat protocols around, and i consider that one of the best reasons to invest my time into using it for my communities wink


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Over @ UBBdev someone, maybe it was you, mentioned FlashChat which I checked out and like because it is a stand alone application on MY server AND it has an attractive, easy to use interface. As mentioned though, there is currently no integration option for UBB Threads-7 but there is for Threads 6.*. You can still use it and integrate it as far as using templates but you cant use the same UBB Threads-7 member database for log on purposes...yet. I am going to ask them to make this happen. Lets see if they respond.

I still like the idea of fluffing up the Shout Box into a chat module though. It would already be integrated into UBB Threads and stupid simple to use. Most of us really don't need anything too elaborate like multiple rooms or private rooms.


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I just checked out FlashChat and think it'd be perfect for me as well. Not only is it just $5 ( cool ) but it's Flash-based which will work for anyone. Many of my users could never get the Java IRC chat working. I saw your post on their forums - I really hope someone comes up w/ an integration for 7.x!


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I could look at it, but I just absolutely am against paying for some scripts when the same functionality is available for me free elsewhere lol...


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Originally Posted by jgeoff
I just checked out FlashChat and think it'd be perfect for me as well. Not only is it just $5 ( cool ) but it's Flash-based which will work for anyone. Many of my users could never get the Java IRC chat working. I saw your post on their forums - I really hope someone comes up w/ an integration for 7.x!

Yeah, I hope so too but I am not going to bang my head trying to get them to get it done but it really is a nice set up. I think I am going to create a template to match my forums and stick it in my forums menu. I want to see if my community really wants or needs chat functionality but it is worth trying. One of my members had suggested it so hey, for 5 bucks it's a no brainier! The integration would be the icing on the cake but don't get me wrong, I would still like to see the shout box evolve.


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I always used jpilot, which I found nice smile

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Originally Posted by Ian
I always used jpilot, which I found nice smile
jpilot is not free, in fact isn't it like $50? pJIRC is a good freeware alternative, not to mention has had more features for the longest time; in fact, most of jpilots current featureset was just cloned from pjirc


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I always got confused over JIRC - never did understand how to either host it properly or get a reliable server where it was already set-up....

Would like to get something back online with 7.1 smile

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jirc is jsut a javascript capable of chating on any irc server (as is the pjirc); i host my own irc server (irc.undergroundnews.com) so it was of no issue to find stability there.

There are however thousands of servers, www.searchirc.com is a great resource in finding a server or network.


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I emailed the guy that wrote FlashChat and asked him if he could put together an integration for threads 7. We shall see, I haven't heard back from him...


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Someone buy me a copy, I'll figure something out lol


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It's only $5 LOL


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Originally Posted by jgeoff
It's only $5 LOL
google and use the define option on the term "low income household"


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
google and use the define option on the term "low income household"


I hear ya, after my recent purchase! lol

(Friggin' "Ships in 24 Hours" apparently means "in a few days or a week or so" now :/ )

When I buy it, I'll get you one wink


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hehe wink...

Newegg is really good with shipping, and it's not like assembly is hard (read the motherboard manual, it'll tel you how to hookup wires to the case); if i had $ I'd so buy a desktop, haven't had one in ages...

The one i was building ended up going to my wife, if i build another it'll likely be dual/quad core, so i'm really anticipating the processor wars this year...


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Easier than falling off a log now days jgeoff. A decade or more ago it was quite a bit more difficult to put one together. Often there was no manual or a 1 or 2 page manual that was in heavy broken English. Now days most are full fledged manuals and auto switch everything. Plug in the parts and fire it up.

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Yes, love Newegg - I use it quite often for work purchases. Sometimes stuff arrives the next morning. Have bought a few thousand dollars worth of stuff last year and no problems with any of the merchandise. Unlike Frys that repackages and sells the used stuff as though it was new mad

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Yes, i've found the same issue at frys here in OR... In fact, i've also found repackaged merchendise with little more than a brick in the box...

Newegg however, i've never had an issue... I love them hehe... Amazon is good too for some things, the used and new is great.


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A friend and I built a top-notch system from scratch about 5 years ago for about $1000 -- I bought all the parts at various places (including newegg) and I'm still using it right now. wink But I was looking for something quick and easy, and Tiger said "Ships in 24 Hours" (but it's been 48+ hours now frown ) I usually love Tiger's speed and prices, but I guess their Systemax division isn't so quick. :/


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Someone buy me a copy, I'll figure something out lol


Cool, 2 licenses were only $9 cool

Giz, PM me your email address and I'll send you a copy. We'll both play with it and try to come up with something, I hope.

PS: Okay, I really wish I was more familiar w/ Threads 6.5 -- UBBcms.php looks like it needs to be updated with the new 7.x variables, but I'm having trouble w/ that. Give it a go, Giz (once I send it to you). I'm sure Rick could do it in 5 mins. wink

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Lol, i'll get it sent in a min wink.

BTW, I've always had issues with tiger's shipping; and I do mean always... Over the last several years when i order something, i expect it to be a month or so before i even see things...

And it's not just over holidays, I order DVDRW's from them (50 spindles for $10, usually buy 5 or so) and it usually takes 3 weeks or so to get anything (I always have stock on hand, so i can do the wait).


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Weird. I've only used them a few times but never had a shipping problem. But guess what? After (apparently) my complaint they changed the "24 Hours" to "7-10 Days" :/

PS - I just sent FlashChat to ya


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lol they can be like that... I threatened them once with false advertising on their shipping times, never got a response lol


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lol, seems like i have mail; and something to do during nap time wink


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Wondering if it's possible to grab the code for the shout box (or anything in the right or left columns for that matter) and put it below the forum.

I really love the width of my UBB Classic board, with nothing on the right or left sides of the forum.

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It's possible to put some of the stuff below the forums. I've done this on my personal site to show that it can be done. The shoutbox however is a bit of a different beast and can't really be moved, in fact I may have to end up pulling the option for external use on it.

I do have it on my list to do some sort of a chatroom feature in an upcoming version as it would be somewhat based on the shoutbox code.

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Nice Rick.

I noticed on this board, as well as yours that you linked to, the board width is set. However with my Classic board, the width adjusts depending on the size of the broswer window.

What options do we have for controlling width of the Threads board? Can it self-adjust like the Classic board?

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You can set a specific width in pixels or as a percentage, which is probably what is used in your classic board.

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Originally Posted by jgeoff
Originally Posted by Gizmo
Someone buy me a copy, I'll figure something out lol


Cool, 2 licenses were only $9 cool

Giz, PM me your email address and I'll send you a copy. We'll both play with it and try to come up with something, I hope.

PS: Okay, I really wish I was more familiar w/ Threads 6.5 -- UBBcms.php looks like it needs to be updated with the new 7.x variables, but I'm having trouble w/ that. Give it a go, Giz (once I send it to you). I'm sure Rick could do it in 5 mins. wink


Hmmm, I was hoping to get the FlashChat developer to do this work. Now I feel like I owe someone. blush


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Originally Posted by FordDoctor
Hmmm, I was hoping to get the FlashChat developer to do this work. Now I feel like I owe someone. blush


Shhhhhh! I gave Gizmo a cookie and he's happy. laugh

FWIW - If possible I'd rather have someone with a strong Threads background to do it, cuz I don't want my Threads database to go bye-bye or anything. wink


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I'm looking at the integration file, and wondering the best way to go about it, a LOT has change from 6.5 to 7.0 lol.. I took and emailed the lead dev over there and hope to get an email back from him. I would however like to encourage all of you who're interested in flashchat to let them know (legitly, don't register 9 accounts to make one point, it's annoying and gets you no where) here

If I don't get an email back tomorrow I'll give it another shot wink...


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lol I'm sure Rick would do it if one would be willing to donate their support units for the cause wink...


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
donate their support units for the cause


Support Units? confused


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You know, when you buy or upgrade your license, you're given X ammount of support units (i believe every unit is an hour); i've heard of them being used towards some custom coding on some things wink

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shocked Well I'll be damned! I did not know that I had units! Maybe I shoulda read a little closer when I bought a license. Besides, I wouldn't want to bother Rick with something that is not his product but I am always willing to donate to the cause.


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They are called HOURS now, not units and unless you bought time specifically or bought the 5 year license then you won't have any support hours.

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i have a lifetime wink


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
i have a lifetime wink

That's why you can't afford the car under the tree at Christmas time grin

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my users bought it for me several xmases ago


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That is really cool, one can only wish/hope for users that generous.

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It's sad though, cas the community is slow in recent years, but the main userbase is quite loyal...


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I do have it on my list to do some sort of a chatroom feature in an upcoming version as it would be somewhat based on the shoutbox code.


You mean something like this some day?

http://www.craftysyntax.com/

http://www.helpcenterlive.com/features.php


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I'd love to see some sort of integrated ajax chat... i likely wouldn't use it since we're quite loyal to our IRC server, but I think it'd be a really cool feature to most communities smile


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I like this idea too

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FYI, the FlashChat integration works with 7.1 Final now; there is a fix posted at UBBDev for their integration file that comes with their latest build.


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Yeah, I was just over there. That is really cool! I am going to wait until they fix the bug which shouldn't take long. I also need to update my UBB Threads to 7.1! blush Updating always makes me nervous especially because my boards are working so well right now.


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The mod over at their parts said that they'd get it patched and updated, but I have no idea how long it'd take; it's a simple fix, they where just referencing the table with the wrong name in the latest version of their integration file.


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Has anyone developed a script that can show who is online in the flashchat, and have that show in a sidebar?

I used to have that for an earlier version of another chat program I had..


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Hi Stan,

If you are using the same Flashchat that I am using, then I have a script for you, as I have it showing on the right column at MSDAOL.

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Got that, thanks DF,

Now has anyone done the code to have the Screen Name show up rather than the login?



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I recall starting this mess months ago and I gave up on integrating deciding to wait it out for a while. Thanks to several people and a few mods I collected on three different forums I finally integrated my Flash Chat last night. For the record, I used the 7.1 CMS option when installing Flash Chat to integrate UBB Threads 7.0.2 which I am still running. blush

The one thing that I can add that might help a lot of people is that you MUST upload the Flash Chat directory/files under your UBB directory. This way, the installation script can pick up the information for your UBB database where it too must set up its database and access certain tables from your UBB database. Maybe this is commonly known among programmers, developers and technical geeks but some of us don't know any better. Myself, I had given Flash Chat it's own directory and its own database on my server. This wont work! It is not written anywhere that I looked that in order to integrate Flash Chat with CMS it needs to be set up to use the same database. Like I said, this is probably obvious to some, but I think it is something that needs to be spelled out for the rest of us. wink Yes, I feel stupid. It is however suggested in the integration instructions to set it up in the forum directory which I finally read carefully and proceeded to do. blush After that, I edited a couple files and had it working nicely in no time. Now feeling less stupid than before... I learned a lot!

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