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#191496 07/17/2007 12:00 PM
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Notify as a Pm

With more and more of use being able to log in from
remote locations, i really do think that the
"Notify" A post warning should also be a pm too.

Will leave the idea of being able to reply to that pm
for another day, but if i'm away and i dont have access
to my e-mail account (pop) i have no way of knowing that
some one has reported a post and action may need to be taken.

The warning about it could be a bold message visible to
admin and moderators only of that forum.

The main point being if I'm not getting e-mails
because of my location then shouldn't threads warn me
visually about it? It can make the difference of world
war 3 starting off.

Trust me if your away from home, and you log in
you need know what's going on.

Keeping it all under one roof wink

Feedback ??


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Who's the 'reply to' side of the PM?

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Well it could be admin / moderator saying thanks wink

As it always goes by as un thanked help in my opinion,
and if you have someone that's prepared to give you
the heads up, at the least you should be able to say
thank you for the information.

Or

We will look into this thanks.

Its just wrong that its one way.
I end up sending a pm if its been really helpfull.


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ok, so the reply to is the person who originally did the Notify..

i was just checking..

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Check's over - what do you think ?


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um ok laugh

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Originally Posted by Mark S
Feedback ??

No PM, no e-mail. Just show "unhandled notifies" in some way above the forum.

At our board I made a hack to do this. Notifies are put in a table, with a "handled or not" flag, and if you are a moderator/admin you get to see in the header the number of unhandled number of notifies.

All 14 of us are global admins/mods, so this saves a lot of e-mail load. We really had a problem when coming home after a day that your e-mail box would be full of notifies and every mod/admin had to wade through all of them to see if they were handled or not.

With this system, our response times to notifies have become significantly faster, none are forgotten anymore in the bulk, and mods/admins are not bothered anymore with notifies that are handled already.
As an added bonus, we also have statistics of who use the notify option the most and maybe use that information to see if somebody would fit in your moderatorteam.

b.t.w., on the example image, it's called a "Fluitje", that's whistle in english, and that's how we call them at our board.

My header also notifies in case of new user registrations, new unapproved posts, new displayname change requests. And new user registrations/display name changes are only shown to the admins that keep themselve busy with that.
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Yarp #191519 07/17/2007 1:05 PM
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To Me that sounds perfect and the right solution,
e-mail is only as a back up reference i'd say.

Was it a difficult hack? is it on DEV or somthing you made your self?

Is it a system you prefer to the current system.

Its come to my attention as i have 2 coursed to go on and each
is for a week at a time. I wont have the ability to log
into my e-mails while away but i think i can get internet
access, and what you have show is the ideal solution IMO

Thanks for sharing that wink

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Mark S #191551 07/17/2007 4:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark S
Was it a difficult hack? is it on DEV or somthing you made your self?

Made my self.

It has a little bug that has stopped me from publishing it to dev yet, and it needs a lot of cleanup. It's kind of version 0.02 alpha that worked surprisingly well for us.

But I'll be happy to send you a PM with the code I use if you are comfortable implementing that to get things on the way before your trip away.


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submit it and have the ubbdev hax0rs improve on an already great idea!! wink

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I agree. Having the code public to experienced UBB coders over at Dev could hopefully improve the code and bugs you mention.

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Originally Posted by ntdoc
I agree. Having the code public to experienced UBB coders over at Dev could hopefully improve the code and bugs you mention.

I'll get out all the dutch stuff in the code and get it on ubbdev!


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Sounds good. Thanks. I can see where a large or very busy board could really appreciate something like this.

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Not just a busy board but just being able to
fully keep an eye on things remotely with out having
to rely on 2 individual sources to stay on the ball.

As you guys say on a huge member base board
the advantages are clear wink

Thanks for sharing and looking forward to seeing this
and hopefully see it as a more permanent addition wink


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I agree, email is annoying, and you have pm limits; so a seperate system alltogethre


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The reason I say a busy board is we have 3 Admins and about 1/2 dozen Mods but I get only a few e-mails a year about issues.

Maybe because it's Tech oriented so most (not all) users are a bit savy about this sort of stuff.

Even when the board was doing a few hundred posts a day we only had to moderate a couple posts a week. Now that it has slowed to a crawl their isn't much for anyone to do in the way of Moderating.

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i seen rick reading this one last night wink
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You'll catch me reading everything if you time it right wink I leave no thread unturned laugh

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is your name yahoo spider lol wink


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Hmm, that's an idea...I should make it so I show up in the list of Search Spiders as well. Rickindexer, Rickabot, Rickoogle, Rickahoo....hmm, none of those have a ring to it.

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While your replying what do you think to this thread as in
Notify as a pm ?

We wont hold you too it honest lol


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I think the whole idea sucks...

or do i...

Only time will tell wink

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LOL, I think we need to make a mod up to show giz as a spider too, lol

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Gizzy is more like a spam bot, he'd need a section all his own wink

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Originally Posted by Mark S
is your name yahoo spider lol wink
only at 4am; we take turns


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Originally Posted by Rick
Gizzy is more like a spam bot, he'd need a section all his own wink
I do hereby declare shenanigans...



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Originally Posted by Sirdude
submit it and have the ubbdev hax0rs improve on an already great idea!! wink

I just put it on ubbdev.


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I'm just wanted to chime in quickly to say that our mods have also been asking that their "Notifications" come via PM rather than email as well.

We have over 60 mods, and 1 Admin (me) and they would prefer to see the notification on the board itself as that's usually their first stop and not always their email.


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IMO
Both can work and both can be needed at different times.

If your working away without e-mail access? Pm smile
If your wanting to keep a record of Notify then email is good smile

But i do think to have the option is essential
as e-mail is no use if you cant get to it.

My 2pence smile


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Originally Posted by Mark S
If your working away without e-mail access? Pm smile
If your wanting to keep a record of Notify then email is good smile

You can keep a record in PM's too.

My own system that I mentioned in this topic also archives the old notifies. I even get historic data out of it (ie, who uses it a lot and might be a potentional moderator).


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I just had this requested from some of our mods as well. An option for them to receive a notify via PM or Email would be nice.

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I still think this is a great idea wink

Notify to be implemented into the Page header smile
Worth a re- awakening.


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I almost finished up my hack on ubbdev, there's a little buglet in there that you don't see notices anymore if the original post was deleted.

The work-around is designed, but not implemented yet.


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I hope 7.3 don't shoot down your hard work wink
As in i hope it will work with 7.3


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it sucks.. i used it..




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joke, i love his mod!! laugh

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Well, I'll get it to work with v7.3, don't worry laugh The updated mod will hit the street the day threads v7.3 will come out, because it's a mod we at themepark.nl can't do without anymore.

I actually started packing things up tonight, but found out I have a few minor issues to sort out.

We use the header insert to show the notifies to the admins/mods, but having to hack it in several headers would not be too friendly. So I'm looking on getting it in the header template.


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Originally Posted by Sirdude
it sucks.. i used it..




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joke, i love his mod!! laugh

Phew i didnt see the "joke" bit at first and was ready to
defend blaaskaak's honour to the death lol

I will use it in 7.3 < Happy >


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