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page veiw question #193749
08/03/07 07:45 AM
08/03/07 07:45 AM
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Tracyluvsubb  Offline OP
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We recently upgraded our boards (the version was around 4 years old) but have noticed our page views have dropped significantly - while our unique users seem to have remained the same. Did the older version of ubb count pages differently or enable log files to somehow "think" there were more page views than there actually were? Our stats are down from like 4.5 million page vews/month to well under 1 million/month.

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Re: page veiw question [Re: Tracyluvsubb] #193760
08/03/07 02:14 PM
08/03/07 02:14 PM
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Tracyluvsubb  Offline OP
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Any thoughts on this? Is this a normal occurance?

Re: page veiw question [Re: Tracyluvsubb] #193779
08/03/07 08:58 PM
08/03/07 08:58 PM
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Rick  Offline
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Did you upgrade from UBB.classic or threads? I believe classic may have counted things differently than what you'll see in threads.

Re: page veiw question [Re: Rick] #193784
08/03/07 11:44 PM
08/03/07 11:44 PM
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teamzr1  Offline
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I wrote another post on this where I also used classic for some 6 years and knew the average view/read counts and since migrating to V7.2 the view counts are almost nil.

Our forum is mostly read by users for techie content and not much new posts but for some reason the view count is being punished if new posts are not being written so those visiting are assume the content is not worth reading and leaving
View counter should not be constrained to write posts.

Today I had 50 people go read one certain post and view counter is at 2


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Re: page veiw question [Re: teamzr1] #193793
08/04/07 05:58 AM
08/04/07 05:58 AM
Gizmo  Offline
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I think some sort of automated rebuild routine should be added, say every X hours it updates; then for those who don't have posters anywere on their forums (small/un-busy sites) will at least have view counts updated.

Also, some people are being misinformed; it's a post ANYWHERE on your forums that updates ALL of the view counts; it's not posts ON THAT THREAD that does it.


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Re: page veiw question [Re: teamzr1] #193820
08/04/07 11:15 PM
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ntdoc  Offline
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Well until a timer is added you could add a post each night and then delete it and the count would still go up.

Then hopefully some type of automated update counter can be added to an upcoming version.

Re: page veiw question [Re: ntdoc] #193839
08/05/07 11:34 AM
08/05/07 11:34 AM
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Could hook it up with the birthday e-mail routine wink


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Re: page veiw question [Re: Mark S] #193872
08/05/07 07:35 PM
08/05/07 07:35 PM
Gizmo  Offline
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Well, that'd be good for a daily update, to which i'd say is more than satisfactory; though i still have a feeling people will still bicker if it's not more often wink


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Re: page veiw question [Re: Gizmo] #193884
08/05/07 10:32 PM
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teamzr1  Offline
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This issue is deeper then people think

I on purpose made a new post in gallery images.

I then on and off went to that thread 5 times.
View count stayed at zero.

I then on purpose wrote 3 other new posts, inbetween each read the image thread 5 times.

24 hours later and the count is a whooping TWO while having monitered who was online and they also going to that image thread.

Add this since migrating from classic version to V7.x the new users applying has gone to zero in over 2 months where before maybe 10 a month says people visiting and seeing view counts around zero do not bother to read or look around.




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Re: page veiw question [Re: teamzr1] #193896
08/06/07 12:19 AM
08/06/07 12:19 AM
ntdoc  Offline
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Hi JR

Just went and did some test posting and it appears to be working fine for me.

Don't forget you have cookies that need to be removed if you want your own account to show the changes.

I logged in. Viewed an image multiple time, no change.
Logged out came back. View incremented by 1 (as it should - the cookie knows I'm the same person so why increase the view count if I view it once or ten times as I'm the same person viewing it and that would skew the REAL view count)

Then logged back in and replied to my own post and the indicator increased as it should.

I think the new count method is confusing to you is all, but it is working as expected.

I still think that Rick should add some code that would auto check and increment if needed say once every 5, 10, 15, 30, 60 (depending on what the Admin sets it to)

Now as to incrementing on your own views, edits that would probably not be a good thing to have it increment each time the same user viewed or edited a topic.

Something along these lines though, I would like to see some code added that would enable the new post indicator (maybe with a different color) each time a user edits his/her own post.
Currently even as an Admin you can't easily tell if a user edits a post.

Re: page veiw question [Re: ntdoc] #193902
08/06/07 12:48 AM
08/06/07 12:48 AM
Gizmo  Offline
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Yeh, was about to say that there are checks which validate that it's not the same user trying to increase viewed counts... Which is set as a seperate cookie from the login cookie iirc.


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