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PM Replies to automated PMs #223929 03/11/2009 9:27 AM
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When someone registers, my system sends them a "PM" from me. Sometimes people reply to that welcome PM with a question or comment but I never receive that PM. Is there a way for me to receive replies to PMs that are automated (another example is the automated PM the system sends people when they subscribe)

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Basil] #223930 03/11/2009 9:57 AM
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You're speaking of the PM that includes:
Quote:
Please do not reply to this message as this is just an automated welcome message to thank you for joining our community.
,right? [Linked Image]

I say if they're dense enough to reply, you probably don't want to hear their pearls of wisdom.

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: DLWebmaestro] #223941 03/11/2009 2:59 PM
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True, but is is possible it's sent from another account than yours? Try reading such an PM en look from which user it's sent and see for the USERID it it, is it the same as yours?

I have an account Admin with display name similar to my own account. That's how this may happen. Just guessing.

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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #223943 03/11/2009 3:47 PM
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No I think what Basil is getting at is after a user registers they get a welcome Private message.
Even though the default message says do not reply many people do.
For auto messages such as the welcome message, If the user attempts to reply nothing happens.
But it looks like to the user their reply was sent. But in fact I think it sends a reply to the user themself.

1. No error message that it will not be sent(BUG?)
2. The message is not delivered.

At the very least, If you can't reply at least have a error message that states so.
Then you could edit the default message and add additional info on how to contact somebody.

This seems to be the case in all messages that are generated by the board, not a user,Mod or Admin.



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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Ruben] #223945 03/11/2009 5:00 PM
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So he should check the participants probably...

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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #223946 03/11/2009 5:10 PM
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No, When you are a new person on the forum. You get a welcome private message. When you read the welcome private message try to reply to the message.
Then try to read the reply as administrator.
It is not there.


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Ruben] #223948 03/11/2009 6:20 PM
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I know what you mean, i registered myself as new user, received the welcome message and the participant is just me (the new user) and admin isn't. So probably it could be solved by changing adduser.inc.php

Find:
Code
	$query = "
		insert into {$config['TABLE_PREFIX']}PRIVATE_MESSAGE_USERS
		(TOPIC_ID,USER_ID,MESSAGE_LAST_READ)
		values
		('$message_id','$Uid',1)
	";
	$dbh->do_query($query,__LINE__,__FILE__);


Add under it:
Code
	$query = "
		insert into {$config['TABLE_PREFIX']}PRIVATE_MESSAGE_USERS
		(TOPIC_ID,USER_ID,MESSAGE_LAST_READ)
		values
		('$message_id','{$config['MAIN_ADMIN_ID']}',1)
	";
	$dbh->do_query($query,__LINE__,__FILE__);



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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #223950 03/11/2009 6:31 PM
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just tested it and it works like a charm...


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #223963 03/11/2009 9:07 PM
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You're enabling idiocy! wink

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: DLWebmaestro] #223965 03/11/2009 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DLWebmaestro
You're speaking of the PM that includes:
Quote:
Please do not reply to this message as this is just an automated welcome message to thank you for joining our community.
,right? [Linked Image]

I say if they're dense enough to reply, you probably don't want to hear their pearls of wisdom.


The PM for a welcome does have a disclaimer, but other automated PMs do not. I've attached an example of the PM that a user gets sent when their subscription expires. As you can see that automated PM does not say don't reply.

Even if the PM had such a disclaimer, I have members who pay me to participate on my forum and I don't want to take an adversarial attitude with them; it's bad business. Many of my members are older folks and not always very computer savvy, so I want to make things as easy for them as I can.


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: DLWebmaestro] #223966 03/11/2009 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DLWebmaestro
You're enabling idiocy! wink


I look at is as enabling paying members to remain paying members wink

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #223967 03/11/2009 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Robje01
I know what you mean, i registered myself as new user, received the welcome message and the participant is just me (the new user) and admin isn't. So probably it could be solved by changing adduser.inc.php

Find:
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	$query = "
		insert into {$config['TABLE_PREFIX']}PRIVATE_MESSAGE_USERS
		(TOPIC_ID,USER_ID,MESSAGE_LAST_READ)
		values
		('$message_id','$Uid',1)
	";
	$dbh->do_query($query,__LINE__,__FILE__);


Add under it:
Code
	$query = "
		insert into {$config['TABLE_PREFIX']}PRIVATE_MESSAGE_USERS
		(TOPIC_ID,USER_ID,MESSAGE_LAST_READ)
		values
		('$message_id','{$config['MAIN_ADMIN_ID']}',1)
	";
	$dbh->do_query($query,__LINE__,__FILE__);



Rob


Thanks! That seems to do what I want!

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Basil] #223969 03/12/2009 1:39 AM
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Well, I can see where this COULD be useful to some; though keep in mind, you'll recieve a copy of each message if this would change in the UBB in the future... That'd be every subscription message, every registration message, etc...


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Gizmo] #223971 03/12/2009 3:02 AM
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Okay, replace the newly added text:
Code
	$query = "
		insert into {$config['TABLE_PREFIX']}PRIVATE_MESSAGE_USERS
		(TOPIC_ID,USER_ID,MESSAGE_LAST_READ)
		values
		('$message_id','{$config['MAIN_ADMIN_ID']}',1)
	";
	$dbh->do_query($query,__LINE__,__FILE__);


with:
Code
	$date = $html -> get_date();
  $dateread = $date + 1;

	$query = "
		insert into {$config['TABLE_PREFIX']}PRIVATE_MESSAGE_USERS
		(TOPIC_ID,USER_ID,MESSAGE_LAST_READ)
		values
		('$message_id','{$config['MAIN_ADMIN_ID']}','$dateread')
	";
	$dbh->do_query($query,__LINE__,__FILE__);


You'll receive the PM but it is marked as red.


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Basil] #223975 03/12/2009 9:26 AM
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I can see working with them if they are paying, that is a good point. But as far as older people not being as 'computer savvy' it doesn't take computer savviness to understand the phrase, 'do not reply.' wink

But yeah, I agree, when working with paying customers, altruism does need to come out a little more.

P.S. Firefox does not recognize the word 'savviness' That's not very savvy of Firefox.

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #223979 03/12/2009 10:20 AM
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Rob, your code works for the welcome message, but how would I do similar for the new subscription message and/or the automated message members get when their subscription expires?

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Basil] #223987 03/12/2009 2:10 PM
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Basil,
I still think it is a bug as far as a user is able to reply to a board generated message without a error message. Because it never gets delivered.
It should at least bark back that the message can't be sent.


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: DLWebmaestro] #223988 03/12/2009 2:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DLWebmaestro
You're speaking of the PM that includes:
Quote:
Please do not reply to this message as this is just an automated welcome message to thank you for joining our community.
,right? [Linked Image]

I say if they're dense enough to reply, you probably don't want to hear their pearls of wisdom.


It would say "You CAN NOT reply", I would say you are right. PM'ing with yourself is one of my irritations of the PM system. If you are all alone left in the PM, the reply button should just be turned off.


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Ruben] #223996 03/12/2009 4:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruben
Basil,
I still think it is a bug as far as a user is able to reply to a board generated message without a error message. Because it never gets delivered.
It should at least bark back that the message can't be sent.


Agreed 100 percent!

Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Basil] #224001 03/12/2009 5:29 PM
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Myself, as an admin, I like being able to reply to myself; a quazi notepad tongue


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Gizmo] #224010 03/12/2009 6:08 PM
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That's quiet easy to solve Yarp™,

Open scripts/viewmessage.inc.php
Find:
Quote:
// Track this for quick reply;
$last_post = $post_id;

$plist = "";


Paste under that lines:
Quote:
$counter = 0;


2 lines ahead you see:
Quote:
foreach($participants as $pvisit => $pdata) {


Paste under that line:
Quote:
$counter = $counter + 1;


Find:
Quote:
$postrow[$i]['replylink'] = make_ubb_url("ubb=mess_handler&replymess=1&Number=$message&id=$post_id", "", false);
$postrow[$i]['quotelink'] = make_ubb_url("ubb=mess_handler&replymess=1&Number=$message&q=1&id=$post_id", "", false);


Replace with:
Quote:
if ($counter > 1) {
$postrow[$i]['replylink'] = make_ubb_url("ubb=mess_handler&replymess=1&Number=$message&id=$post_id", "", false);
$postrow[$i]['quotelink'] = make_ubb_url("ubb=mess_handler&replymess=1&Number=$message&q=1&id=$post_id", "", false);
}


Find:
Quote:
$user['USER_TOTAL_PM'] = $total_unread;


Paste this under that line:
Quote:
if ($counter <> 1) {
$qr = 1;
}
else
{
$qr = 0;
}


Find:
Quote:
"quickreply" => 1,


Replace with:
Quote:
"quickreply" => $qr,



See next post for turning off the quick reply function...

Rob

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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #224012 03/12/2009 6:23 PM
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Disabled the quickreply box while there's just 1 participant:
Open templates/default/viewmessage.tpl

Find:
Quote:
<a name="quickreply"></a>


Paste above that line:
Quote:
{if $quickreply}


Find: (Somewhere around line 94)
Quote:
{if $mystuff}


Paste above that line:
Quote:
{/if}



Hope this helps you...

Rob

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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #224013 03/12/2009 6:27 PM
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As you can see i'm trying to become a ubb.HELPER smile

Ah, and don't forget to remove previous made modifications...

Rob

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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Robje01] #224014 03/12/2009 6:58 PM
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Rick only charges me $20.00 per month to have that title. laugh
Just kidding of course.


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Ruben] #224018 03/12/2009 7:27 PM
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Hehehe grin


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Whereas I've just been spamming here for years for my nifty blue one tongue...


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Gizmo] #224022 03/12/2009 7:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Whereas I've just been spamming here for years for my nifty blue one tongue...

Yea but Rick said it would cost me a extra $30.00 for the blue title.


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Ruben] #224025 03/12/2009 7:54 PM
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Maybe it's worth it smile


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Ruben] #224038 03/12/2009 10:54 PM
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Yeh, major percs... Moving problematic or off topic threads, pt's begging for support, email alerts for impatient users, yey! lol... I like it anyway wink


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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Gizmo] #224096 03/14/2009 4:17 AM
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I think version 7.5.1 should have this in it ASAP smile

Stop the Replies to Board Generated private messages smile


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Originally Posted by Mark S
Stop the Replies to Board Generated private messages smile
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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Gizmo] #224134 03/14/2009 11:19 PM
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Punishments should be automatically handed out when a (l)user replies to a generated PM that says not to reply. For example, redirect them to one of those lovely goatse photos... [Linked Image]

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You will be pleased to know that using paypal subscription
a member receives a board generated private message

WITHOUT any "Do Not Reply" Notices to be seen.


"Donation Received
Thank you for your donation. You have been added to the ' xxxxx ' Subscription Group."

Ive tested it and you can reply from the user point of view
but you dont get the private message. If they need to ask
any questions.

SO version 7.4.2 there is no DON NOT REPLY Warnings in any
of the payment subscription generated private messages.

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7.5.1 If a User Leaves you a comment on your Profile page,
there is no warning in the private message?

DO NOT REPLY !


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HUH?
I did not know a pm is sent to you when someone leaves a comment in your profile.
Rick must have slipped that in on 7.5.1


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I just posted in your profile and now you should get a pm smile


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7.5 had it already.


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Originally Posted by Mark S
I just posted in your profile and now you should get a pm smile

Oh I see (Said the blind man)
The PM actually comes from the admin (Rick). Not who posted.

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Re: PM Replies to automated PMs [Re: Ruben] #224389 03/19/2009 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Ruben
HUH?
I did not know a pm is sent to you when someone leaves a comment in your profile.
Rick must have slipped that in on 7.5.1



I did not know you could leave a comment on user profiles
Not sure if I like it as it look like more areas to Spam, to watch, and moderate

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