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You can use this topic to discuss the 7.5.2 release.
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Nice job continuing to move ahead with updates. 
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Thanks for the quick fix!
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Thanks for the quick fix to the 7.5.1 bugs.
Question: I'm already at 7.5.1. Is there a list of changed files that I can upload to get to 7.5.2 without having to go through the whole upgrade process?
Thanks!
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When you download the zip file in the install folder is a file called upgrade_changes.txt.
It will list all the files changed by version
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Great fixes, thanks Rick..
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Is it safe to upload yet?
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Is it safe to upload yet? Are you chicken!!!  Myself I am going to wait a few days. Just because I don't have much for issues.
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Mine went fine but it's basically a test forum for this one so not a lot of data to manipulate.
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Myself I am going to wait a few days. Cluck cluck errr cluck???  Jus' jokin Rubin I upgraded to 7.5.1 last night and then upgraded to 7.5.2 at about the same time tonight. No worries (AFAIK! )
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Thanks Rick
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Great job! I see my fix made it to the release . Where can I cash my cheque  .
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Hi all, How would I go about applying to be a beta tester for version 8? Although my php/mysql skills are pretty shoddy I think I could offer some helpful input on the html/css side of things. As you can see from my forums (link below) I've customised ubbthreads' templates quite a bit in the past... LoveTheGarden ForumsCheers, Phil
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I'm not sure I would even qualify.
I run multiple versions of the Linux operating system and own my own little data center. My regular forum does on average of 250 posts a day with an average of 187 active members on a monthly basis with over 600 registered users. I'm generating over 39,000 page views per month on average as well.
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I believe all beta testers are selected by Rick; at this point i think we've got a pretty large group of testers already...
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As I recall, cant find it as the search function is BROKE again, that Rick said that his beta testing staff has dropped off recently and these latest releases have not been tested as much as the previous versions. He also stated that he was thinking of recruiting new beta testers.
I believe you have posted in on this conversation as well Gizmo as you replied to one or two of my posts in that thread.
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I have several recommendations then if that's going to be the case; but I haven't heard anything official...
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HERE is the post by Rick referencing beta testers.
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As I recall, cant find it as the search function is BROKE again, that Rick said that his beta testing staff has dropped off recently and these latest releases have not been tested as much as the previous versions. you sir, are correctamundo.. matter of fact there are 'beta testers' who really don't test at all and it's been that way for quite awhile.. 
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I just wish i had the time 
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Well, in my case it would be more to do with checking over the template files/css styles than actually beta testing on a range of hardware, as I believe version 8 will move away from table based layouts to more modern display methods. But anyways, the offer is there.
Keen to get some jQuery loveliness bolted onto ubbthreads too and lose those pesky popup windows in favour of lightboxes, for example.
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I beta test each release; have been busy with the divorce lately so i haven't posted much at either forum to signify that though... Plus I keep the tots in line here hehe...
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is there a way to just install the modified files? it seems like a complete install everytime.
EVEN if there was another zip that had those files we have to delete everytime..
Or is there an easier way?
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You could use a differencing tool to confirm and update only changes but that might be just as time consuming as running the update. Also from time to time there are DB structure changes that just replacing new files would not make that change and the average user wouldn't know how to make the change or might accidentally do it wrong and break their site.
Even doing the file change difference can be done wrong if you're not careful. So even though there may be some users that can handle it there are probably many more that can not and it might open a can of worms for support trying to maintain different packages.
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matter of fact there are 'beta testers' who really don't test at all and it's been that way for quite awhile.. Well suppose one has to clarify that as I certainly don't recall any documentation requiring any specific feedback, code check, input, etc when Rick has added testers. Yourself and a couple others really go the extra mile and do a LOT compared to most of the rest of us though and I'll give you that in spades, but to say that others don't test at all is possibly a bit inaccurate, but then again that's my own perception and I could be wrong. I've tested many things myself but I know I don't always provide frequent feedback, so if Rick wants or requires a more structured tester then I think that should be clarified.
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Once 8.0 is getting close to an actual private beta then we'll probably look at the current group of beta testers, clarify what we need and maybe add a couple new ones if needed. We'll definitely need active testers that have some time since there will be a lot of testing to do.
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matter of fact there are 'beta testers' who really don't test at all and it's been that way for quite awhile.. Well suppose one has to clarify that as I certainly don't recall any documentation requiring any specific feedback, code check, input, etc when Rick has added testers. Yourself and a couple others really go the extra mile and do a LOT compared to most of the rest of us though and I'll give you that in spades, but to say that others don't test at all is possibly a bit inaccurate, but then again that's my own perception and I could be wrong. I've tested many things myself but I know I don't always provide frequent feedback, so if Rick wants or requires a more structured tester then I think that should be clarified. then you are prolly one beta tester i wasn't referring to.. i can't find 'ntdoc' in there anywhere in my post
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is there a way to just install the modified files? it seems like a complete install everytime.
EVEN if there was another zip that had those files we have to delete everytime..
Or is there an easier way? I always use the upgrade script. By the time you go thru the upgrade_changes.txt file and then go thru the altertable files it would be done already. Looking at your homepage you are on 7.5 and 7.5.2 does alter the tables.
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There are some things that are just so great about ubbthreads.
One that I am not that fond off is that I would have to buy a license for every site..
I use another package, and when ever there is an upgrade, I click a button, my CP has all the ftp stuff, and it updates the software, I think of that everytime I update threads...
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Maybe one day we will get to that point??
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I'm guessing that you're referring to maybe on in like a Fantastico or other CPANEL/PLESK control panel that has certain Web Script applications that it installs.
Not sure what the licensing model is or how they get selected to be in there. Maybe something to do with fully free? Not sure.
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It is inside the CP of SMF forums... one click a few seconds. and it is updated...
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I beta test each release; have been busy with the divorce lately so i haven't posted much at either forum to signify that though... Plus I keep the tots in line here hehe... Ditto. Same exact issues here but as I just signed our papers my time is opening up now.
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I always test mine too. When I know its working on my test site I bring it to my live site to test in an open environment. Going in for surgery soon, but I have the time.
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I use another package, and when ever there is an upgrade, I click a button, my CP has all the ftp stuff, and it updates the software, I think of that everytime I update threads... While we will be doing some stuff via internal FTP in version 8, permissions, etc. doing upgrades this way is a bit tough. If we were free software it would be easy peasy. Since we're not, there would need to be some sort of authentication layer so a bit more involved. Not saying that it's out of the question that we'll do that someday, it's just there would be a few extra hurdles for us.
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I use another package, and when ever there is an upgrade, I click a button, my CP has all the ftp stuff, and it updates the software, I think of that everytime I update threads... While we will be doing some stuff via internal FTP in version 8, permissions, etc. doing upgrades this way is a bit tough. If we were free software it would be easy peasy. Since we're not, there would need to be some sort of authentication layer so a bit more involved. Not saying that it's out of the question that we'll do that someday, it's just there would be a few extra hurdles for us. I'll just be happy when the blogs hit.
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Rick,
Question on your comment.
Since this is a pay per license software, why is there not some validation for the license presently during a install or upgrade.
The only protection is member access. But I could give out the zip file to every person I wanted to.
I could just buy a gold license and then sell the zip for $10.00 a pop.
Seems like this would protect piracy on your end anyway.
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Authorization would result in a "callback" to a license server, which would arise privacy issues... people would cry :nod:...
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Authorization would result in a "callback" to a license server, which would arise privacy issues... people would cry :nod:... I disagree, we all live with software upgrades today. Try to reinstall windows on your box and see what happens if you don't have that 26 character string on the sticker. You will be buying a new software package.
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We might be spoiled dealing with this site but in the real world.
"No ticky no washy" as far as every other pay license is concerned.
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Authorization would result in a "callback" to a license server, which would arise privacy issues... people would cry :nod:... We'd also need to do some sort of code encryption since without it, if someone really wanted to run a pirated license, they'd just remove the callback. That's not really a road I've ever wanted to go down.
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Where is that chicken post!! LOL
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Well Ruben, my statement came from the great wizdom of Mr. Charles Capps (Former UBB.Classic developer) years ago when I asked about license checks ...
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As I recall, cant find it as the search function is BROKE again, that Rick said that his beta testing staff has dropped off recently and these latest releases have not been tested as much as the previous versions. He also stated that he was thinking of recruiting new beta testers.
I believe you have posted in on this conversation as well Gizmo as you replied to one or two of my posts in that thread. Well I am not going to beat up on any beta testers. I think the first thing people forget is they are all volunteers meaning they all work for free. They may check out very thoroughly what they think is pertinent to the changes so they may overlook some items. What I don't agree to is if a person want's to be a beta tester then they should also at least send a message to Rick that they don't have time to be one anymore. Or at least they don't have time to test the current beta release.
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For some software that I have used in the past, my websites checks and validated everytime with the mothership... Mothership was down for a few weeks so were all of our sites then.. that was www.webscribble.comor one similar to that... We sure do not want to go that way either..
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Well Ruben, my statement came from the great wizdom of Mr. Charles Capps (Former UBB.Classic developer) years ago when I asked about license checks ... I remember CC . BTW where is the tongue. I got used to it so I expect it. LOL
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BTW where is the tongue. I got used to it so I expect it. LOL Naughty naughty boy... :x... I have a PT of CC yelling at me for posting dribble haha, I'm so going to frame it one of these days...
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Yep, CC was a little more strict than Rick.
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So I wanted this place popular and more business casual; whereas CC wanted it professional :x...
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Well I think Rick is professional just a different personality.
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Yeh, he lets me run wild... without being chained to the back of the house..
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Fluff, eh? I hear you can do that for a living in certain movie industries... Ruben might have some contacts... he did inquire about your tongue... /me thinks 7.5.2 should have been called 7.5.1.1. Brevity is for wusses.
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I see the search is working again. Why has it been breaking with every upgrade since 7.4?
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As I recall, cant find it as the search function is BROKE again, that Rick said that his beta testing staff has dropped off recently and these latest releases have not been tested as much as the previous versions. He also stated that he was thinking of recruiting new beta testers.
I believe you have posted in on this conversation as well Gizmo as you replied to one or two of my posts in that thread. Ummm, I didn't think I was beating up on the beta testers for one, I did however TRY to point out that "Rick" himself had stated that the beta testing program has become laxed causing more bugs not to be found before the product was released to the general public. I personally think you should have quoted Rick as he "beat up" on his own beta testing program if your looking at it in that manner. Well I am not going to beat up on any beta testers. I think the first thing people forget is they are all volunteers meaning they all work for free. They may check out very thoroughly what they think is pertinent to the changes so they may overlook some items. What I don't agree to is if a person want's to be a beta tester then they should also at least send a message to Rick that they don't have time to be one anymore. Or at least they don't have time to test the current beta release.
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I see the search is working again. Why has it been breaking with every upgrade since 7.4? Not sure, I haven't done anything with it since upgrading. Was it returning errors for you, or just no results?
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Tells that there are no results to display.
how I have been fixing it was just re-uploading the search file a few times and then it starts working again for some reason. This happens in my site and here that it is breaking.
I can't explain it really. I'm sure it is happening for many other users too.
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To Jaisp,
I was only quoting your post to reference beta testers since this topic has a little drift off topic.
But you are correct Rick is the one that stated about low participation from the beta test group and new blood may need to be solicited for version 8.
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I'd be willing to jump into the fray, but will have to wait and see what happens I guess. I've been an alpha tester with a company and have really enjoyed finding issues and working for a resolution.
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It use to show which thread people were viewing, now it only shows that for the visitors, or is there a switch for that someplace?
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I'd be willing to jump into the fray, but will have to wait and see what happens I guess. I've been an alpha tester with a company and have really enjoyed finding issues and working for a resolution. With UBB, you can only beta test for UBB. You can't be helping the competition at the same time.
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Harold, I never said I would be helping anyone else if I was to enter the beta test here, however unlikely that is.
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Can we have a 7.5.3 (Soon) 7.5.2 is too buggy for me IMO And i waana upgrade
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Curious mark, which bugs in 7.5.2 are holding you back? I don't really see any that'd be show stoppers for an upgrade at this point (unlike 7.5 and 7.5.1)
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It use to show which thread people were viewing, now it only shows that for the visitors, or is there a switch for that someplace? You lost me Stan. What feature are you talking about?
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On the online page. The amount of detail revealed of what a user is doing or viewing.
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Can we have a 7.5.3 (Soon) 7.5.2 is too buggy for me IMO And i waana upgrade The online stuff and user comments (Profile) I just like it to be as stable as possible. It is a pain finding the time to upgrade. Looks like Rick is on 7.5.3 already So its not going to be too long i guess.
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Did not you hear? Rick is on sick leave. Heh Heh Heh
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Mark I am using 7.5.2 and even though you stated in other posts that it is a little buggy. It works fine for me.
Can you elate on a few prime issues you have?
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elate ?
what happened to the 'abor' part ? :shrug:
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elate ?
what happened to the 'abor' part ? :shrug: If that was me, I'd have ripped my PC apart before finding flat batteries in my keyboard. 
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We're probably going to wait a bit longer on this. Every time we put out a release it seems a couple of bugs are picked up shortly thereafter, so will give this a bit longer to see if anything else needs addressed.
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Mark I am using 7.5.2 and even though you stated in other posts that it is a little buggy. It works fine for me.
Can you elate on a few prime issues you have? Who's online islands and the caching. Nothing major but if i wait i don't have to do it all again a week later Dont mind waiting
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Any chance for this weekend? 7.5.3 Got the easter long weekend coming up 4 days off
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Any chance for this weekend? 7.5.3 Only asking don't shoot me
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Doubtful, Rick wants as few releases between now and v8 as possible; so since the current bug's aren't *show stoppers* and theres just a handful, it can be put off slightly as to ensure we don't have to have a 7.5.4
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For me, since I'm having zero problems with 7.5 I'll probably just wait for the release of v8.0.
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I do plan on getting 7.5.3 out by the end of the month, probably within the next week or so.
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My problems only began with 7.5 so I'll upgrade as often as possible in the hope that those problems will be mitigated. That said, it looks like I am the only one with this problem so I wouldn't worry about upgrading. I've done it a few times recently and the upgrade path is (touch wood) very smooth.
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I do plan on getting 7.5.3 out by the end of the month, probably within the next week or so. That's fine by me. . . Just like to plan upgrades with time to spare at a weekend. I hope you get yours sorted Driv
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Is there a way to increase the maximum replies to a post?
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Hmm, there is no limit to the number of replies to a post. Do you mean the number shown on each page?
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I have a group of people who use the PM feature to respond to on ongoing discussion. There are 2200+ nested replies. When we installed the update there is no longer a place to submit a reply. It says we have exceed the 100 replies. Here is the message:
This topic has reached it's maximum length of 100 posts. You cannot add any more posts to this topic.
Is there a way around this?
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I have a group of people who use the PM feature to respond to on ongoing discussion. There are 2200+ nested replies. When we installed the update there is no longer a place to submit a reply. It says we have exceed the 100 replies. Here is the message:
This topic has reached it's maximum length of 100 posts. You cannot add any more posts to this topic.
Is there a way around this? Yes you just need to edit your permissions in the control panel. Control Panel » Site Permissions There are now three permissions for private topics. they are in each of the three columns about the middle of the screen. When you expand each option you will see a note for what the permission is for.
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226019 should be split into its own topic in the how do i forum... None of us mods have access to this forum to do maintenance...
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I know that I mentioned this before in another forum and it was possible, but can secure ssl logins and CP be implemented? It just needs a way of specifying a second path for the CP and login scripts.
Most proper hosting uses a second https directory rather that a shared directory.
Then it's a matter of activating a checkbox use secure ssl logins and cp. A new box to set the https path both web and absolute path. Anyone using shared can use the same absolute path.
Only need to copy in a second https only the files mentioned.
When you look today with most ISP stopping plain mail logins and FTP and other forums like vbulletin offering secure CP and logins the feature should be available.
Thanks!
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Actually, a "proper" host would generally allow SSL on the same directory as the standard web path; at least in my experience of both working for a webhost and maintaining several servers for users...
The SSL directory can be anything they choose the path to be, and, imho, should be the standard web directory...
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I do plan on getting 7.5.3 out by the end of the month, probably within the next week or so. oi, 23 hours....
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Hospital time with kid has kinda sidetracked that schedule a bit
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Hey Rick, any update on the munchkin? Hope the little on is doing OK.
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He's finally home from the hospital after a few days, so things are getting better. Also, it keeps me away from every sick person going to the hospital thinking they have Swine Flu.
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Thanks for the update. Having raised a couple of kids, I know how it can frazzle your nerves when you put kid and hospital into the same sentence.
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