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Hey guys was chatting with Gizmo on this and he asked to share it on the forums..

I just did a completely fresh installation of 7.7.4 and it was pretty much un-eventful. I have one wierd issue. I go to change the forum style from dark to light in the bottom dropdown and vice versa. It gives a 404 error because it has doubled the entry when referencing it'self.

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goes from http://www.domain.com to http://www.domain.com//www.domain.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm when making this change.

I ran the test script it says nothing is broken. It's only that dropdown having the issue. I tried making baseurl the same as fullURL as it is the same.

Any thoughts ? It's the only thing that seems to be off. everything else is awesome. I used to install this in my sleep in the old days smile this might be something to check.


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Are your absolute path settings all the same.
Meaning all using public-html or www?
Not a mix of one path is www and another path is public_html.

Note the double slash
www.domain.com//www.domain.com
I had this issue with a previous host but not my current one.
So I believe it is some server configuration that screws with the ubb scripts.
My previous host would just say call the vendor.
Before I changed hosts I think the following fixed it.
But I can't recall it was three years ago.
https://htaccessbook.com/remove-double-forward-slashes/

All I remember was it was a edit to the htaccess file.
When I changed hosts it worked fine without the fix but I never could figure out what was different between the the two hosts.
Because my account at the previous host was closed to quickly during the transition.


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yes everything is the same. its a www windows dir and Full URL path is http://www.domain.com the relative is blank because we are running the whole site as a forum and not a sub directory. I have tried just about everything so far.. even checked php.ini stuff. never had this issue with my older installs smile

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Originally Posted by Mors
yes everything is the same. its a www windows dir and Full URL path is http:// www .domain .com the relative is blank because we are running the whole site as a forum and not a sub directory.

For reference (and could be helpful for others), the following are the settings I use for a Windows 10 install of UBB.threads via xampp.

Windows 10 lan connection through direct IP address rather than DNS.

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edit: if you need other configuration screenshots, i would be happy to make and post them for you laugh


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I think I see a redirect in the code.. I type in http://domain.com and it redirects to http://www.domain.com

I am not using a forums directory so this redirect might be an issue.. it says curl sees it a //www.domain.com// as far as I can tell.


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What happens when you correct your root directory path from blank (null) to instead be / (slash)?


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<input type="hidden" name="curl" value="%2F%2Fwww.mshastro.com%2F" /> what looks wierd..

let me check the / usually that caused it to not see .css and load most of the siite.. let me check.. I have to leave it blank


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Ya I add the / instead of blank and the url changes to ubbthreads.php and I lose css etc.. looks more codeish then bad config.

with is blank the url link is http://www.mshastro.com.. with / the url link is just ubbthreads.php.

the website references index.php and default doc

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Originally Posted by Mors
Ya I add the / instead of blank and the url changes to ubbthreads.php and I lose css etc..

did you update/rebuild the cache after the change

do you have custom (or any) forwarding scripts unrelated to UBB.threads. Anything such as an .htaccess file or whatever Windows / your apache server uses to redirect.

have you tried using FULL URL, as the configuration setting describes?


stock code:
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<input type="hidden" name="curl" value="{$current_url}" />

your output code:
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<input type="hidden" name="curl" value="%2F%2Fwww.mshastro.com%2F" />

%2F is a /

So what you are looking at is your browser converting your entry with the slashes from html special characters to html friendly characters
https://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_urlencode.ASP

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this is fine, because it gets decoded back special chars when it is used. though I am looking at your output and wondering why it reads as "//www.mshastro.com/". This is url without a protocol. It is not html5 spec. choose http or https for the protocol.

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yes familiar with urlencode characters..

check the screeny attached. Everything seems to work although I am losing icons at time like the camera for the forum. something is changing. I used the css validator from debug mode and it says 105 css issues and missing fields

I am using IIS on windows 2012. no redirects setup of on the website.

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Originally Posted by Mors
check the screeny attached.

Your screenshot is of a "Paths & Database" setting.

Does this match the same URL in your general setting for "Homepage URL" ?

Do you also have your sessions path setup correctly?

as a side note, which I believe to be completely unrelated to the Windows paths issue you are currently experiencing:
The CSS validator you use, is it validating against CSS2.1 or CSS3?
You will get errors if you are validating CSS3 against a CSS2.1 file.
Is the file you are validating against something included with UBB.threads, or something you created or found online somewhere, such as a prior version of UBB.threads?
What are you validating? a url or a hostedhtml page, or direct link/copy-paste of a css file. a a backedup or exported ubbt style?


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its the css validator that comes with the bottom messages of the debug feature.. Just go to the site and you can run html5 validator and css validator.

and yes they all match.. they have http://www.mshastro.com as home and full urls.. nothing in relative url.

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FWIW I have a High School Forum which uses UBB.threads in the web root (but not using Windows to host) and my configuration options are as follows

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I see that your baseurl is blank, try duplicating the value of the full url and see what happens...
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I have run these forums on this server before smile I don't think its IIS or Windows thing yet.. that was older versions .. this new version fundamentally different and had lots of forum goodness in them smile


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I will be adding the SSL cert as soon as they are up smile Don't have it yet..
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I see that your baseurl is blank, try duplicating the value of the full url and see what happens...
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Same behavior when changing styles adding full URL to the blank / Relative field


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Here are the screenshots of both paths and general. Like I said if I use full URL along side of the relative full url it does the same thing when selecting styles. runs very well otherwise.

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Why is this blank?

Please enter "Full URL or Relative URL to Forum Directory" within that field. This configuration item should not be left blank.

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Enter either of the following:

Full URL:
http://www.mshastro.com

Relative URL to Forum Directory:
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But do not leave it blank.


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Also, because you are on a windows system, your PATH slashes are in the wrong direction. Windows paths should be backslashes.

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additional reading:
https://www.howtogeek.com/181774/wh...nd-everything-else-uses-forward-slashes/


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I can try it.. I think I did that but brb


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Ok changed the absolute paths from E:/ to E:\

It didn't change the redirect issue.. I also noticed that the image camera icon on the image gallery forum will show up first time. I click into the forum and go into the image forum list and the icon is gone.. it goes from :

<img src="/images/general/ventura/newimages.gif" ondblclick="markRead('3','nonewimages.gif')" style="cursor: pointer" title="Double Click this icon to mark this forum as read." alt="" id="icon-3">

to no image and

<img src="/images/general/ventura/nonewimages.gif" alt="" id="icon-3">

Not sure if this means anything but usually the image icon indicating gallery forum stays put.


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BTW I opened a ticket with the info smile just in case you need real time access


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Originally Posted by Mors
BTW I opened a ticket with the info smile just in case you need real time access
We do not work for the vendor, UBBSystems (who works primarily in the helpdesk); we're all here on the forums as volunteers.

Do you happen to have a copy of your old forum which was working on the same server? Might be useful to see what settings you were previously using.


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
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BTW I opened a ticket with the info smile just in case you need real time access
We do not work for the vendor, UBBSystems (who works primarily in the helpdesk); we're all here on the forums as volunteers.

Do you happen to have a copy of your old forum which was working on the same server? Might be useful to see what settings you were previously using.

Ahh ok I didn't know smile Been so long. I can look to see if I have archived that old site. be back asap if I find it.


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7.5.9 was the last version back in 2015. I have an archive of the source code but not the site.


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reinstalled the forums without error.. same issues. I am thinking it is some code affecting pathing. I have tried every combination in general and paths section.

The forums load perfect and after I click on a link it starts dropping resources like the Camera Icon and the double URL post taking place with switching the Styles at the bottom dropdown list

I take it everyone using linux.. I have used Windows and IIS since 1997 and have always had these forums run on the server since 2001. Looking into iis rewrites of the url now but I don't think it will change much. If you need a windows iis tester I am your man for future releases.. I would even give you your own site, ftp etc.. smile

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ok great.. I just realized the icon goes away on these forums too after you click on it.. I might be mistaken about the icon thing.. It used to just go grayed out etc.. in the past.. still getting used to everything. sorry.. I am trying to not jump to conclusions.

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Originally Posted by Mors
ok great.. I just realized the icon goes away on these forums too after you click on it.. I might be mistaken about the icon thing.

The icon on the forum is related to NEW/UNREAD items in forum vs ALL CAUGHT UP.

NEW - you'll see an new.gif which is an image
NONEW - you'll see a nonew.gif (blank icon) which is an invisible block.


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Maybe somebody should reach out to BellaOnline.
She is the only member I know of that has used a windows server from the get go.
In fact I think she still uses a windows server.
Her site shows she is using UBB 7.7.3 I believe.
https://forums.bellaonline.com/ubbthreads.php

She may have run into the path issue herself in the past.
Might save some troubleshooting steps for all.


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She's on IIS7 vs IIS8 (you can see it on her error pages); slightly different type of apples.

Windows Server 2008 IIS7.0 vs Windows Server 2012 IIS8.0


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It still does not mean she may not have some suggestions nobody has thought of.

I don't know about you but I have not used a windows host since like 2000


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I gave Isaac access to a test site and domain for testing code. You guys should validate code for all platforms. I am also validating things on my end

I am going to need to get it fixed.. smile I tried just running 1 template and the dropdown didn't get rid of the template in the list so now it gets lost when I try to use the style that was deleted. I

Where can I get some other styles.. I went to ubbdev and really didn't find much. I would like to check out other styles to be honest.. the current styles delivered with the code had missing elements and 108 errors if you go to the css styles tester delivered with debug mode.

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Originally Posted by Mors
I gave Isaac access to a test site and domain for testing code. You guys should validate code for all platforms.

Thank you for the access, but I am actually looking to find IIS 8.0 from the 8 year old EOL OS version so I can perform a fresh install of it, and run it unmodified

Windows 8 Mainstream support ended on July 10, 2018
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8

Windows Server 2012 Mainstream support ended on October 9, 2018
source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Server_2012

I have a trial version of both, but will need to set it up and configure it, then install a database engine and required libraries for IIS 8.0.

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Again, I will do this with the time I have available to me this week. I foresee this as a very time consuming entirely unpaid job.

Everyone else is free to chime in with their helpful IIS 8.0 advice.

Again Mors, thank you for setting me up with access to your server. I probably will not go that path since debugging is faster and easier on an unmodified platform.


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HERE IS THE FIX !!

It's a simple fix but the real issue is all the URL validation / redirects in the code that caused this (linux / php stuff). I was watching the calls being made by the forums in fiddler and was able to determine the problem. So I wrote this simple redirect in IIS to offset the code.

Forum setup steps in control panel:

1) I entered in the "Full URL to Forum Directory" http://www.domain.com
2) I entered in the "Full URL or Relative URL to Forum Directory" http://www.domain.com not blank but I could of probably did that too.
3) I entered everything else as normal.

Steps in IIS URL Rewrite tool this works on all IIS 7.0 and higher

1) I created a blank rule
2) look at attached screenshot at the rest of the entries

The rule captures the double URL entry made by the code when changing styles (self posting) and redirects it back to the original URL.

http://www.domain.com//www.domain.com =====> http://www.domain.com

I worked on an advanced rule that would allow where you were currently in the forums to have the double entry removed and bring you right back to that spot under the new style. I could not do this as I saw in fiddler that if I passed a URL with variables under the redirect, the forums would immediately over write the URL again via a curl redirect or call. So I had to just bring it back to root URL.

http://www.domain.com//www.domain.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=1&page=1 =====> http://www.domain.com

instead of http://www.domain.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=postlist&Board=1&page=1

It would crash otherwise because of the coded rewrite. If there are any additional Rules needed I will do them and post them on the forum. I might change things a bit to accommodate SSL. Easy addition. Also I can use the [host] variable instead of hard coding the site.

You guys might want to put this in a How To by itself so it doesn't get lost.

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I cannot reproduce your issue on a fresh/clean install of current versions of everything. Have you tried removing your customized server redirects, or restoring your server settings to their defaults? Have you tried updating your versions? It could be possible that any issue you are experiencing now, has been resolved in a newer (currently supported) version.

The following is what I tested with. Zero issues presented themselves. Everything continues to work as expected. No code changes or redirection tricks used or needed.

FRESH INSTALL OF:
Windows 10 Pro version 1909
Internet Information Services 10.0 (IIS/10)
PHP 7.4.11
MySQL 5.7.31
UBB.threads 7.7.4 (installed to ROOT of localhost)



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I noticed a few things about your issue that stand out as unnatural:

1. On 2020-09-29, you were running php 7.4.11.
A pre-release version of PHP?
PHP version 7.4.11 was released on 2020-10-01.
source: https://www.php.net/archive/2020.php#2020-10-01-3

2. You are using Windows Server 2012 with IIS/8.0.
Any reason why you dont update to at least WIndows Server 2012 R2 with IIS/8.5?
Windows Server 2012 Mainstream support ended on October 9, 2018.
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/iis/get-started/whats-new-in-iis-85/enhanced-logging-for-iis85
or the current version, Windows Server 2019 with IIS/10?
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/ii...iis-10/new-features-introduced-in-iis-10

You're running the bleeding edge version of PHP, so new that it wasnt even officially released at the time you were running it, but are doing it on web server version that has reached end of support several years ago (2018).

Either of these could be related to the cause of your problem. Though, i believe your main issue is the custom url redirects you've created.

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Actually I will upgrade at the end of the year to windows server 2019. What php variables are you running


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