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We've been experiencing extremely slow response times on our forum for the past few days. At first I thought it was a routing issue, but now I'm not so sure. This is what our hosting company just posted to an ongoing ticket discussing thiese issues.
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Based on the "mtr" output you shared, the network connection appears stable and healthy, with no significant packet loss or latency issues. This suggests that the load issue is likely originating from the server itself. Upon further investigation, we noticed that the MySQL processes running on the server are contributing to the high load. It is recommended to optimize your database, as inefficient or long-running queries could be straining server resources.

Please consult with your developer to review and optimize the database performance. Below is a screenshot showing the active MySQL processes contributing to the load.

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Once these optimizations are applied, we advise monitoring the server's performance to ensure improvements. Let us know if you need assistance with any specific steps, and we’ll be happy to help.
Feel free to reach out if you have further questions or concerns. Thank you for your continued patience and cooperation.
So, I thought, this is easy to shoot down. I'll just load the home page, and when it takes forever, that's clearly not a mysql issue. So, I checked the home page, and a number of other static pages on the site. They all loaded instantly.

Hmm...
So, I ran top:
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 top

top - 15:05:24 up 37 days, 21:14,  2 users,  load average: 48.02, 48.80, 40.91
Tasks: 293 total,  11 running, 282 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 47.2 us, 52.6 sy,  0.0 ni,  0.0 id,  0.0 wa,  0.2 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :  15718.4 total,    435.3 free,   2854.8 used,  12428.3 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   4000.0 total,   3495.8 free,    504.2 used.  12473.1 avail Mem 

    PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                   
   2515 mysql     20   0 5019624 340772  12752 S 687.4   2.1  47144:23 mysqld                                                    
3070788 root      20   0  830548 563092   6004 R  16.2   3.5   0:16.22 awstats.pl                                                
3061199 apache    20   0  762380  57404  21096 R  15.6   0.4   0:47.74 php-fpm                                                   
3066945 apache    20   0  762316  54616  19392 R  14.9   0.3   0:40.55 php-fpm                                                   
3066949 apache    20   0  762300  54704  19260 R  14.9   0.3   0:40.76 php-fpm                                                   
3066967 apache    20   0  761716  53916  19260 R  13.2   0.3   0:42.32 php-fpm                                                   
3061057 apache    20   0  755928  51632  21560 R   7.9   0.3   0:49.49 php-fpm                                                   
3061519 apache    20   0  759008  55248  25780 R   7.3   0.3   0:46.03 php-fpm                                                   
3061525 apache    20   0  752108  45632  21368 R   5.6   0.3   0:46.00 php-fpm                                                   
3061183 apache    20   0  750060  44752  21112 R   5.0   0.3   0:46.16 php-fpm                                                   
3061201 apache    20   0  748016  42852  21688 R   4.6   0.3   0:45.79 php-fpm                                                   
3061053 apache    20   0  733680  28952  20928 S   0.7   0.2   0:50.32 php-fpm                                                   
3070442 apache    20   0 2505452  16844   8840 S   0.7   0.1   0:00.74 httpd                                                     
 907006 root      20   0   96112   3420   3304 S   0.3   0.0   0:35.54 master                                                    
3064357 root      20   0       0      0      0 I   0.3   0.0   0:02.52 kworker/1:1-events                                        
3069873 apache    20   0 2505452  17644   8908 S   0.3   0.1   0:00.75 httpd                                                     
3070009 apache    20   0 2505452  17716   8916 S   0.3   0.1   0:00.72 httpd   
Then I restarted mysql and ran top again.
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]# systemctl restart mysqld
[root@ded602 ~]# top

top - 15:17:08 up 37 days, 21:26,  2 users,  load average: 36.99, 41.69, 41.16
Tasks: 291 total,  16 running, 275 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 42.4 us, 49.2 sy,  0.0 ni,  8.2 id,  0.0 wa,  0.2 hi,  0.0 si,  0.0 st
MiB Mem :  15718.4 total,    918.5 free,   2349.1 used,  12450.8 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   4000.0 total,   3809.3 free,    190.7 used.  12982.6 avail Mem 

    PID USER      PR  NI    VIRT    RES    SHR S  %CPU  %MEM     TIME+ COMMAND                                                   
3070998 mysql     20   0 5007348 499576  38548 S 665.6   3.1  73:49.84 mysqld                                                    
3071117 apache    20   0  750064  43064  19436 R   5.3   0.3   0:14.16 php-fpm                                                   
3061199 apache    20   0  748148  42212  21144 S   5.0   0.3   1:02.83 php-fpm                                                   
3066950 apache    20   0  748016  40772  19948 R   5.0   0.3   0:54.01 php-fpm                                                   
3066966 apache    20   0  748012  40884  19820 S   4.6   0.3   0:57.91 php-fpm                                                   
3061198 apache    20   0  745968  40736  21228 R   4.0   0.3   1:10.06 php-fpm                                                   
3061525 apache    20   0  745964  41180  21416 R   4.0   0.3   1:03.12 php-fpm                                                   
3066951 apache    20   0  745964  38972  19692 R   4.0   0.2   0:57.23 php-fpm                                                   
3071094 apache    20   0  748012  39752  19948 R   4.0   0.2   0:16.12 php-fpm                                                   
3066963 apache    20   0  745972  37960  19624 R   3.6   0.2   0:57.62 php-fpm                                                   
3067035 apache    20   0  745964  39580  19628 R   3.3   0.2   0:56.33 php-fpm                                                   
3071099 apache    20   0  745964  39196  19248 R   3.0   0.2   0:13.42 php-fpm                                                   
3066952 apache    20   0  743916  36092  19752 R   2.3   0.2   0:56.54 php-fpm                                                   
3066967 apache    20   0  743916  36612  19948 R   2.3   0.2   0:57.90 php-fpm                                                   
3067037 apache    20   0  743920  36200  19948 R   2.3   0.2   0:56.64 php-fpm                                                   
3071118 apache    20   0  743920  37388  19504 R   2.3   0.2   0:15.20 php-fpm                                                   
3071084 apache    20   0  739824  33800  20012 R   1.7   0.2   0:15.04 php-fpm
Can someone smarter than me tell me I have a problem with mysql? How can I be using 665% of cpu? That doesn't make any sense to me.

How do I optimize the database? And would that actually make a difference?


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I just closed our forum. Stopped mysqld. Then restarted it. Then reopened the forum. The %CPU is varying between 1% and 790% (using top). I've also been noticing a much higher than normal view count on our website. Could this be some sort of a denial of service attack?


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Optimization could help with a high load, but not if your being attacked it won't do a thing, if you have a cdn like Cloudflare you can lookup traffic by country then can any offenders; I just had to do this the other day for a client with Singapore, Hong Kong, and China..

Your host could be helpful here to determine if you're being attached if you don't utilize a cdn


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I have an active open ticket with our hosting company. I think I need to look at where our traffic is coming from.


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I blocked this entire network.
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NetRange:       47.74.0.0 - 47.87.255.255
CIDR:           47.76.0.0/14, 47.80.0.0/13, 47.74.0.0/15
NetName:        AL-3
NetHandle:      NET-47-74-0-0-1
Parent:         NET47 (NET-47-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Allocation
OriginAS:       
Organization:   Alibaba Cloud LLC (AL-3)
RegDate:        2016-03-17
Updated:        2017-04-26
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/47.74.0.0
Their IPs were responsible for a tripling of our traffic, and I'm sure I'll find all sorts of bogus queries in the logs.
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grep -c 47.76.99.127 /var/log/httpd/stovebolt/ssl_access_log
382974
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# grep -c 47.76.209.138 /var/log/httpd/stovebolt/ssl_access_log
382905
And, our performance has returned to normal.

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Originally Posted by Baldeagle
I blocked this entire network.
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NetRange:       47.74.0.0 - 47.87.255.255
CIDR:           47.76.0.0/14, 47.80.0.0/13, 47.74.0.0/15
NetName:        AL-3
NetHandle:      NET-47-74-0-0-1
Parent:         NET47 (NET-47-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Direct Allocation
OriginAS:       
Organization:   Alibaba Cloud LLC (AL-3)
RegDate:        2016-03-17
Updated:        2017-04-26
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/47.74.0.0
Their IPs were responsible for a tripling of our traffic, and I'm sure I'll find all sorts of bogus queries in the logs.

Did you pull that IP range from the server yourself or did the ISP provide you with that after opening up a ticket with support?

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Originally Posted by Conrad
Did you pull that IP range from the server yourself or did the ISP provide you with that after opening up a ticket with support?
I pulled that from our httpd logs after seeing the hits in awstats. That's what the greps were in my post.


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Originally Posted by Conrad
Did you pull that IP range from the server yourself or did the ISP provide you with that after opening up a ticket with support?

About 2 weeks ago, i had to toss this in to my .htaccess file to get the "10-hits every second" to stop. They were hitting my servers for several days. About a week later, I commented out the deny, and they instantly showed up again from Singapore. so i uncommented it to block them again.

The bad part about this, is that there is a huge server in Texas Colorado that also begins with 74 47, so their traffic is also blocked. But I'm fine with that smile

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<Limit GET HEAD POST>
order allow,deny
allow from all

# Singapore
deny from 47.0.0.0/8
</Limit>

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The Texas server begins with 74? Or 47? If it begins with 47, it's part of the Alibaba cloud, so blocking it shouldn't cause undue problems. They hit us so hard the site was timing out at times. I wonder if the huge networks that are load balanced realize what's going on? Or if they even care. For us little guys, it's a huge problem.

Here's my .htaccess file (part of it).
# Block via IP Address
#Allow from 127.0.0.1
#Deny from 212.235.15.153
#Deny from 156.59.198.136
#Deny from 212.29.233
#Deny from 111.225.149
#Deny from 47.76.35.19
#Deny from 217.113.194
#Deny from 101.44
Deny from 47.76
Deny from 47.89
Deny from 47.74

The commented out ones were previous abusers. If they come back, I uncomment them.


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Correction, Not Texas.
Charter Communications (Spectrum) in Colorado
https://whois.domaintools.com/47.0.0.1


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you have a Deny from 47.76. in your list twice.
the commented-out first one is more specific. the second is broad ranged.

lol @ Allow from 127.0.0.1 facepalm


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Yeah, your block takes out an entire class A network. Mine don't even get the entire Alibaba network. Just the class Bs that were giving us fits.


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Yup. I've looked, and I'm not too worried about it.


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Originally Posted by Baldeagle
Here's my .htaccess file (part of it).
# Block via IP Address
#Allow from 127.0.0.1
#Deny from 212.235.15.153
#Deny from 156.59.198.136
#Deny from 212.29.233
#Deny from 111.225.149
#Deny from 47.76.35.19
#Deny from 217.113.194
#Deny from 101.44
Deny from 47.76
Deny from 47.89
Deny from 47.74

The commented out ones were previous abusers. If they come back, I uncomment them.
Currently my .htaccess file is completely blank but in light of unusually high data use I'd like to try blocking a few countries as a start.

Is it just the "Deny from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" lines that I need to add to that file and nothing else? And then turn off the forums (mysql too?), reboot the server, and turn the forums back on again? Will this work considering I'm on Apache 2.2.27? smile

Also, is there an easy way to encompass all or at least most IP addresses from the likes of China/Russia/India?

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Deny x or Deny x.x or Deny x.x.x or Deny x.x.x.x

You don't need anything else in the file. I would caution against blocking Class A networks (Deny x). You're almost guaranteed to block something you didn't mean to.


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Thanks, certainly don't want to block more than is necessary. What's the quickest way to encompass the likes of China/Russia without inadvertently blocking access to any Western countries?

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I've never researched that. You might try asking Grok or ChatGPT.


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Ok, no prob. I thought someone might have already tried blocking these countries using .htaccess as opposed to CloudFlare where you can select the country by name...

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If you want to block the entire class a network, add the following to your .htaccess
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<Limit GET HEAD POST>
order allow,deny
allow from all

# Broad violator range
deny from 47.0.0.0/8
</Limit>


If you want be more specific, add the following to your .htaccess
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<Limit GET HEAD POST>
order allow,deny
allow from all

# Singapore common violator ranges
deny from 47.74
deny from 47.79
deny from 47.82
deny from 47.84
deny from 47.88
deny from 47.89
</Limit>


If you want be more near exact in what you limit, add the following to your .htaccess
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<Limit GET HEAD POST>
order allow,deny
allow from all

# Singapore specific
deny from 47.74.128.0/17
deny from 47.79.0.0/20
deny from 47.79.48.0/20
deny from 47.79.96.0/19
deny from 47.79.192.0/18
deny from 47.82.0.0/18
deny from 47.84.0.0/16
deny from 47.88.128.0/17
deny from 47.89.88.0/24
deny from 47.89.91.0/24
deny from 47.128.0.0/14
deny from 47.235.1.0/24
deny from 47.235.4.0/24
deny from 47.235.6.0/23
deny from 47.235.19.0/24
deny from 47.235.21.0/24
deny from 47.235.30.0/24
deny from 47.236.0.0/15
deny from 47.241.0.0/16
deny from 47.245.64.0/18
deny from 47.246.1.0/24
deny from 47.246.39.0/24
deny from 47.246.58.0/24
deny from 47.246.62.0/23
deny from 47.246.106.0/24
deny from 47.246.157.0/24
deny from 47.246.158.0/23
deny from 47.246.160.0/20
deny from 47.246.196.0/22
</Limit>

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IP2Location - Block Visitors by Country
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TO AVOID POSSIBLE HOST VIOLATIONS, DO NOT ADD TOO MANY DENY REQUESTS


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