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I ran into an interesting situation today. We have some very zealous moderators who see zombies everywhere. Today, one of the most zealous ones freaked out over a registration which I approved. Here' s the details.

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I approved three registrations earlier today, but they were all in the US and either directly at or close to the IP location.

The one you are referring to is:


MikeOwen #51910
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eskimo-reps-dorsal@duck.com Reg Date: Tue Nov 04 2025 03:36 PM
Last Post: -
Last Login: Tue Nov 04 2025 03:36 PM
Reg IP: 77.111.117.87
Last IP:

I don’t know what UBB uses to identify the IPs, but here’s what they said it was:

Tue Nov 04 2025 03:36 PM
77.111.117.87
AT&T Enterprises, LLC (Broadband)
Chicago, IL US (Estimated)
United States, North America

But whois says it’s;

inetnum: 77.111.117.0 - 77.111.117.255
netname: NET-77-111-117-0-24
country: US
admin-c: TA8706-RIPE
tech-c: TA8706-RIPE
abuse-c: ACRO45564-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: interlir-mnt
created: 2024-06-11T07:10:18Z
last-modified: 2024-08-09T09:11:32Z
source: RIPE
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This is what Grok said.

My question:
Who is RELCOMGROUP-EXT-MNT?
I'm trying to figure out who owns this IP: 77.111.117.87
According to one source, it's AT&T, but according to a different source it in the RIPE whois area and theRELCOMGROUP is the registrant.

Grok’s answer:

RELCOMGROUP-EXT-MNT is a RIPE NCC maintainer for Relcom Group, a Russian IT/hosting firm (AS35112).

IP 77.111.117.87: In 77.111.117.0/24 (US, Virginia), ASSIGNED PA via InterLIR; routed through AS7018 (AT&T) and AS401838 (Uni Broadband LLC). No Relcom Group link.

So it does appear to be AT&T related.
So, what does UBB use for geolocation of IPs? And how do we know that any of the whois providers are up to date with the latest info?


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Personally I only allow Admins to see IP Addresses; theres no reason for moderators to have access to anything identifying for the users other than their email.

As for the service used for geolocation, as mentioned in the Control Panel where you enable the feature (CP -> Master Settings -> Lookup Services) we're using the IP Geolocation API; this can differ from the information gleaned from user entries in their profile or from the specified site you run whois lookups from in the Control Panel (by default it's whatismyipaddress.com)

The owner of IP Addresses can be complicated, you are assigned a chunk of addresses from ICANN and these are broken down and sold further and used by various organizations that can have a global entity; so where an IP address is shown as a location could be nowhere near where one site says it is. An example being my Comcast IP used to list me in Portland, OR (well, "potland" as the shortened name) and now it lists me in Salem; I'm in neither location being in Milwaukie (though it did the same when I lived out past Beaverton).

Expect approximations and best guesses in some instances.


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