David thanks for the reply, how wouold I check to see if there are any forum permissions assigned to these groups?
I can't imagine for a minute there would be as we didn't put them there but I don't want to remove them if its going to cause problems.
PS. removed duplicate graemlins fine. <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
