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650 search engine spiders in the past half hour, wow.

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Make that 665. If this keeps up, we'll break our most online record, that was set only 2 days ago wink

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LOL, they sure are crawling. I had 350 the other night

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672 Search Spiders right now

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680 How can you possibly have this many ?


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Aren't you the lucky ones frown

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693 Search Spiders. here.

repost but more relevant to this topic wink

nope

704 Search Spiders.

nope

706 Search Spiders.

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I've been getting the same thing recently.
Heck of a lot of spider activity.

My site got a new record at 6.04am the other day.

I didn't see the details, but I estimate there were 500+ spiders online.

(My site is 90% UK - who's online at that time?)

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TAMU.edu - Search spider that's a new one searching my forums


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Yes, I have that one also.
Just one instance now and again though - not exactly a Yahoo competitor.

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Fancy a American University creaming info from our site lol


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Actually, I've just checked and I have 250(ish) spider - all Yahoo.

What do you think has brought on this sudden frenzied spidering?

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The word PORN lol


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Following Marks insightful comments on the content of my site (ahem!) I did a search for the word porn.

And yes - there were 2 results...

  • One regarding a Digital inflection rigidometer. Users view porn to get 'started' wink
  • The other when a competitor website tried to trash my site by saying that it was affiliated to a porn site. (One of my members was on the committee of a website that became defunct and their forum was overrun with porn spammers.
Check your boards - do you have 'porn' on them? laugh

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OMG

I have 8 pages "Max" limit reached lol

But i have topics called NOT PORN
And a game called Porn Star name too lol


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Rose is going to be very upset to hear of this Mark.

She thought you were sooooh sweet wink

Showing your true colours now, mate smile

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Its not me it my users lol

And its all clean lol

Rose will understand, she has too or life just aint worth living lol

The game 3 words after sex don't help either


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Originally Posted by Mark S
The game 3 words after sex don't help either

Maybe you don't know the 3 correct words. YOU'RE RIGHT DEAR


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hrm. technically that's 4


(I KEED)

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Not really, it's a contraction for you are

So, debatable on many sites (not an issue I care to debate though)

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456 se spiders; all but 1 being yahoo lol


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I had two pages of it. But only used in the most innocent of ways. smile

Speaking of search bots, I have a question. I don't really get many search bots - maybe four or five at a time. I've always thought it was because I don't have the following checked in the CP.

Enable Spider-friendly URLs?
Warning: This function allows search engine spiders to crawl the community, which may result in higher bandwidth usage and server load.

Note: The PATH_INFO environmental variable must be available for this feature to function properly.

The reason I don't have this checked, is because I don't want individual posts coming up in search results in Google and other engines. Do I have a correct understanding of this function?

Just wondering. smile

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SE Friendly urls make it "easier" for SE's to troll your board, yes; though not impossible wink


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But am I right in thinking that if I have that box checked, individual posts will appear in search engine results?

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All that box will do is help SE's spider pages easier; they can spide without the option.

And if pages are included in google then yes, individual posts will be in there too.

You'll find that even the most mudayne posts will bring in users from search engines lol


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hrm. so if i post sex slave midget and then

a real serious post, google will bring em on in..

note to self.. preface all posts with above words laugh

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lol, kinda wink...

Our most popular incoming thread at UGN?? HotChicks thread... Kinda like UBBCentral's longest thread lol


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Well, my users are totally against having individual posts listed in search engines, and so am I really. I guess I'll leave that unchecked.

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well, see, it's not just individual posts; it's the entire topics (and as individual posts are a PART of the topic, they're included as well).

BTW, nothings to say that they won't crawl it anyway, unless you have a robots.txt rule to specificaly tell search engines not to crawl your forums.


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I've tried searching for posts on Google, and they don't come up. People talk about some real personal stuff on my forums, and I'd really hate to see those come up in search results.

I do have a robots.txt, but I don't restrict the forums.

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do you restrict anonymous users? ie: are they forced to sign up to see forum info?


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To protect your forums, if you actually don't want SE's crawling things, you should add this to your robots.txt...

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SD, anonymous users can read the boards, but they can't post without registering. Why do you ask?

Giz, I allow them to crawl the forums - in fact I want the forums to be listed in the search engines. I just don't want individual posts to be crawled. I thought that by not checking that checkbox, it prevented that. I could be right though - because I haven't seen an individual post from my forums in a search listing since I've had UBB.

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nonono... ok...

REGUARDLESS of if you have SE friendly enabled or not, you will get crawled. SE links just help the process along and streamline the crawling of content.

If THREADS are indexed, invididual posts are as well, as posts are a PART of the thread...

The content of which the search engines use to bring you new users is from the individual posts.

If you WANT your site crawled by SE's you should enable SE frinedly URLs to help the process, though by not enabling them you're still allowing se's to crawl, it'll just be more difficult for them to do so...


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BTW, some of your posts/threads are in google:
clicky clicky


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Yikes!

Ok .. but who will ever use that search term? I took a phrase out of one of those posts, and put it into Google, and it didn't come up in the results list.

So, the REASON for that check box, is to make it easier for bots?

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It won't nessessarily return just any term for just any search; it's kind of hard to explain briefly..

Well, the "reason" for the box is to clean up how URL's look, and how url's are fed to the browser/client requesting them; it's just that the "cleanups" work well with search engines; the initial cleanups in previous code where based off of proven techniques...

If you surf around UBBDev about 2-3 years ago you'll see me talking about search engine spiders and a paid search engine hack that I was using at the time; this was just before SE friendly url's where introduced into the feature set (of at least classic; I don't know when they where put into threads as I wasn't a threads6 user).


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Thanks Giz .. I understand now. smile

I've always found SE stuff difficult to understand, although I recently went right through the Google Webmaster tools, doing everything they recommended for ratings and exposure.

I am quite serious about not having individual posts appear in listings, although what I thought was preventing that looks as though it might be incorrect. I might do as you suggest, Giz, and use the robots.txt to prevent the reading of individual forums, but then activate that checkbox. Is that what you'd recommend?

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Originally Posted by Sirdude
hrm. so if i post sex slave midget and then

a real serious post, google will bring em on in..

note to self.. preface all posts with above words laugh
Or use the "invisible post footer" option.

Left click and drag from here > sex slave midget hotchicks < to here. smirk

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quality i like that trick wink


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color=FFF shows up perfectly in the dark theme i'm using, so it's really not invisible..

but i get your drift wink

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Originally Posted by Rose
I am quite serious about not having individual posts appear in listings,


Would this thread help at all, Rose? http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearch/slurp/slurp-05.html

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I think it does, driv. Thank you. smile

But given that each forum page is dynamically built, where would I put the meta tags?

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Control Panel » Display Options >>>> HTML Includes

Header Insert:
Use for meta tags, etc.

That should cover every page wink


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What a team!!!! laugh

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You guys are awesome! So, it looks to me as though I CAN have it both ways. laugh

Big hugs to you all. smile

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So, I'm not quite sure about the difference between the NOARCHIVE and NOINDEX tags. They sorta sound the same to me.

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Check out the last paragraph of that page...

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Also, the NOARCHIVE tag controls only whether the cached page is shown. To prevent the page content from being indexed, use the NOINDEX tag.


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NOINDEX - tells search engine not to index a specific page

NOARCHIVE - tells search engine not to store a cached copy of your page

NOFOLLOW - tells search engine not to follow the links on a specific page

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Like I said wink
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What a team!!!! laugh
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I luv quoting meself - makes me feel important in my own small world...... cry

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don't do your post count any harm either wink
And its over 15 characters lol


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Originally Posted by Mark S
don't do your post count any harm either wink
And its over 15 characters lol


Now then - there's a thought.

But what is 15 chars?

Is this fifteen ??? (It has 2 spaces)

Is this 15 laugh ? ??? (It has 4 spaces a question mark and a smiley)

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seeing that you asked me

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question mark and a smiley


I dunno that's why i follow up with crap lol


smile <<< Opps nearly forgot the smiley wink


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Ok, what does the following mean for the enable spider-friendly URLs?

Note: The PATH_INFO environmental variable must be available for this feature to function properly.

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I'm guessing it's significant, because I selected that checkbox, and my main page banner disappeared! Yikes! smile

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lol Rose. it's fun just following your travails !

keep going!

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Well, if you add the robots.txt option that i specified, it'd completely block SE's from transversing your forums, which would be th eonly way to block them from trolling any of the content on your forums.

SK, sweet trick wink


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Originally Posted by Rose
I'm guessing it's significant, because I selected that checkbox, and my main page banner disappeared! Yikes! smile


I can't see ANY reason for that happening.
I suspect you have some sort of 'local' issue?

Give it an hour or two - I'm sure it will resolve itself smile

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Originally Posted by Sirdude
color=FFF shows up perfectly in the dark theme i'm using, so it's really not invisible..
Lol; should have set the background property (I think we have that option hidden away somewhere)...

As for meta tags, these seem to do about the same thing as the robots.txt thing; only the robots.txt thing will save you bandwidth as they won't even bother trying to transverse your space.

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Whatever gets you through the night wink


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Originally Posted by Mark S
don't do your post count any harm either wink
And its over 15 characters lol
good old mark, looking out for everyones postcount...

Originally Posted by Rose
Ok, what does the following mean for the enable spider-friendly URLs?

Note: The PATH_INFO environmental variable must be available for this feature to function properly.
PATH_INFO is an enviroment variable which allows the UBB to read the "miscelanious text" after ubbthreads.php; if you don't have this enabled on your server, you can't use short URLs.

Theres an option on the FAQ which covers this and ways to fix it.

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lol Rose. it's fun just following your travails !

keep going!
the wobulous travels of Rose lol...

I do however find it odd that rose's header dissapeared, i can't see why that would happen from enabling shorturls...


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did you know that the character limit counts quoting users too? :x...


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Didn't really mean it as a post-count-boost just a bit of banter, really.

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Originally Posted by Gizmo
did you know that the character limit counts quoting users too? :x...
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Originally Posted by Mark S
Originally Posted by Gizmo
did you know that the character limit counts quoting users too? :x...
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EXACTLY!


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it could be a trick crazy blush crazy laugh shocked grin wink

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It's all just a trick, a really, lame, trick...


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btw, i'm pretty sure rick's calculator is based off of characters, may they be a smiley or not...

"Hey, this is cool smile!" would be 21 characters (well, 23 if you include the "'s)


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LOL in about 2 weeks a startup site I have is already posting at number 1.

Search "Warhammer of Destiny" in google.

I am just about ready to drop the one site and release this new site.


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yeh but a true test is without "" wink


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<snicker> a sitemap would do you wonders mors wink :x


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Gizmo has had 673 posts in the last 2 hours !! laugh


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lol, no, i'd go 100 or so in the last 24 though :x


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
<snicker> a sitemap would do you wonders mors wink :x


I am buying yours Gizmo. I just haven't been home long enough to send the 50 bucks and be there to install it smile Next week I will install it. smile Get ready to send it..


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With you and the other inqueries this week, brings the total usercount to 11 I think; gaining momentum :x


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I'll have to check it out.

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Originally Posted by Rick
650 search engine spiders in the past half hour, wow.


I was lucky if i averaged 30 or so search spiders and the occasional peak of 90 until last night at 2:30am

564 <<< Search Spiders WOW

No idea how and why lol

But enjoying the attention smile

Q - Gizmo lol


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Why, why, why... Well, if you have my sitemap installed the "frequency" is set to daily so they could be visiting back to see if anything is new...


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if ? You know i have it installed lol

Its version 3 wink


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wink... Was speculating! lol...

I think I'm going to add a tick to adjust the default frequency... Or set it so if it was posted after X ammount of days it's adjusted...


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v4 wink


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<snicker> development of v0.4 will be pushed back till at minimum the 3rd week of July; Ian has some test changes in the one I gave him wink...


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Well spiders are down by 400 or so now. Still a lot of them here though.

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414 at UGN right now

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If you're using a map wouldn't you want them to die down quite a bit more and only come back periodically and index more?

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With some data yes; but it's a forum, so data is constantly changed; so you don't want them to only check back once a week or so as they will not get content.

They also check the pages for new data, if nothing is new, they'll move on to the next pages.


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