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Just a couple of photos from football last night... #199208 10/13/2007 6:32 AM
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Just a couple of photos from football last night...

Hi,

Just a couple of photos from the FA Cup 3rd Qualifying clash between AFC Hornchurch & Dulwich Hamlet.

These were shot at 2000iso due to the dark conditions.
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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Ian] #199210 10/13/2007 9:14 AM
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Very impressive, Ian.
I guess you're happy with your new toy then?


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nah - will probably put it out with the rubbish on Wednesday - NOT!

It is doing well - last night was a hard test for it - was using it with my 400mm F2.8 and being dark the floodlights were not much help. Had to shoot manual. It is a heavy lens at 11.7 pounds, despite the monopod.

The full gallery of some of the shots are available at http://www.fansfocus.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showgallery/Number/1223622


Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Ian] #199222 10/13/2007 3:18 PM
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Which toy is that? :drool:


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: AllenAyres] #199223 10/13/2007 5:14 PM
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That would be this toy smile


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: driv] #199226 10/13/2007 5:39 PM
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LOL not quite smile

Canon 1D MKIII smile

Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Ian] #199231 10/13/2007 6:08 PM
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Amazing pictures!

Is it a hobby or a profession?

Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: ScriptKeeper] #199233 10/13/2007 6:23 PM
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yummy to the max... I love that camera, too bad it's out of my price range :x


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Gizmo] #199234 10/13/2007 6:26 PM
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Quote:
Canon 1D MKIII
OOopps - sorry 'bout that blush


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: driv] #199237 10/13/2007 6:39 PM
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Though I think if I had $4499 I'd find something other than a camera to blow it on :x


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Gizmo] #199239 10/13/2007 7:08 PM
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Quality Pics Ian.

Did you say 2000 iso ?

Giz your $4499 went on a girl called veronica lol


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Mark S] #199242 10/13/2007 7:57 PM
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Psh, I only need 15 minutes, I could get 45 "veronica's" for that :x...


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Ian] #199245 10/13/2007 8:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
It is a heavy lens at 11.7 pounds


Crap that's heavier than a fully loaded AK-47
AK-47


Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Ian] #199246 10/13/2007 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian
LOL not quite smile

Canon 1D MKIII smile


Very nice smile

My 40D came in a couple weeks ago, I second-shot a couple weddings since then - nice but I need to figure out all the settings still smile


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: ScriptKeeper] #199253 10/14/2007 5:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ScriptKeeper
Amazing pictures!

Is it a hobby or a profession?


It should be a profession LOL

I am a member of the Chartered Institute of Journalists (allows me to put MCIJ behind my name LOL) and the Sports Journalists Association.

Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Mark S] #199255 10/14/2007 5:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark S
Quality Pics Ian.

Did you say 2000 iso ?


Sorry- just checked the Exif - it was shot at 1/500" 2500iso f2.8


Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: ntdoc] #199256 10/14/2007 5:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ntdoc
Originally Posted by Ian
It is a heavy lens at 11.7 pounds


Crap that's heavier than a fully loaded AK-47
AK-47



Don't forget to add the weight of the camera and monopod - it aint light LOL

Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: AllenAyres] #199257 10/14/2007 5:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AllenAyres
Originally Posted by Ian
LOL not quite smile

Canon 1D MKIII smile


Very nice smile

My 40D came in a couple weeks ago, I second-shot a couple weddings since then - nice but I need to figure out all the settings still smile


Nice camera smile Hope you enjoy it.

If you need any advice or guidance just ask smile

What lens are you using for the weddings? Do you use an external flash?

Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Ian] #199260 10/14/2007 5:58 AM
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I wonder what qualifications i'd need to have a business buy me a camera like that... I'd be an errand boy :x...


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Gizmo] #199284 10/14/2007 5:21 PM
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Ian if you get a mo smile

Explain ISO for me in English smile
And in less than 150 words lol


I think i understand it? But not 100%
I know if its bright and a want a fast action picture frozen in
time (eg wheel spinning) i up the ISO

But as it gets dark or dull light then ISO comes down to 200 or 100
that's why i said "Did you say 2000" because my jaw dropped lol...

Is it the camera or the man behind it wink


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The less light available the higher ISO level you'll need to take a better quality photo (that appears the same level of light).


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Mark S] #199305 10/15/2007 3:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark S
Ian if you get a mo smile

Explain ISO for me in English smile
And in less than 150 words lol


I think i understand it? But not 100%
I know if its bright and a want a fast action picture frozen in
time (eg wheel spinning) i up the ISO

But as it gets dark or dull light then ISO comes down to 200 or 100
that's why i said "Did you say 2000" because my jaw dropped lol...

Is it the camera or the man behind it wink


You will need a higher ISO depending upon the ambient light. Darker conditions will require a higher ISO. Unless you are taking a night scene or the moon, when you will probably shoot at 100ISO.

You will need a faster shutter speed to stop action.

In football you need to shoot at 1/500" or faster (day games typically one will shoot at 1/2000") - 1/500" is probably the slowest speed to stop the action.

Now to give you more ambient light you will need to adjust the ISO in dark conditions as already mentioned, but also you need to watch the focal length of the lens. You will need to open the lens as wide as it will go. That is why we have to use large (and expensive!) lenses that will to f2.8. I would like wider than F2.8 (say f2 or f1.4, but these would cost the earth, be massive even if the could made in a longer lens)

Of course with a wide open lens you will reduce the background, which is of course what you want often for football or any sport for that matter - you do not want the background getting in the way of a decent picture smile

Hope that helps smile

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Yep

I have a crap 'f' numbers lol (f numbers)

Thanks for the How too,

and if you have 3 more seconds of your time "what" is ISO wink
No more than 150 words lol
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Kind of curious if you can adjust the focal length on cheaper cameras... lol


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Re: Just a couple of photos from football last night... [Re: Mark S] #199315 10/15/2007 7:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark S
Yep

I have a crap 'f' numbers lol (f numbers)

Thanks for the How too,

and if you have 3 more seconds of your time "what" is ISO wink
No more than 150 words lol
Thanks Ian


ISO is the measurement of how sensitive a digital camera's sensor is to light. The speed or light-sensitivity of a digital camera's sensor is rated in ISO numbers -- the lower the number, the slower the response to light.

Higher ISO numbers indicate a higher sensitivity to light, so less time is needed to expose a picture. Most digital cameras let you control the ISO setting to allow the use of higher shutter speeds and/or smaller apertures, according to circumstances.

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Originally Posted by Ian
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Very nice smile

My 40D came in a couple weeks ago, I second-shot a couple weddings since then - nice but I need to figure out all the settings still smile


Nice camera smile Hope you enjoy it.

If you need any advice or guidance just ask smile

What lens are you using for the weddings? Do you use an external flash?


I used the 24-70L f2.8 for this shot, great lens but my longer lens is one of the 70-300 f4-5.6 IS - takes a good image in good light but in the low-light of most weddings where they don't let you use flash it's nearly impossible to get a decent image without some blur from subject movement. I've assisted in ~8 weddings this past year, but before I do another I need to upgrade my longer lens. I like the 70-200 f2.8 IS but at $1600 US it's kinda not in my range (btw, canon rebates should start today :yay:) I may go with the 135L f2 or the 100/2.8 macro until I can save my pennies smile


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Thanks Ian wink Its now Crystal Clear, i thought it was something like that, but you put it nicely and made sense smile

Me go play with F Numbers


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The 24-70L is a nice lens, and is reckoned to be the wedding lens of choice smile Although I do not have one yet - might pick one up from say beach cameras when I am in the US later this month. They have some good prices, so check them out smile Mind you I do not think I will be able to claim the cash back (although if I can use your address for it, you can have it smile )

I have a 70-200L (both f2.8 IS and F4) and they are nice lenses smile I use a 16-35L f2.8 for wide angle shots.

Always go for the L versions if you can of any lens smile

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You should check out Ritz Cameras as well; they have some great prices


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I like b&h and amazon.

Need any help with an address, I'm your man smile PM if assistance is needed.


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I find that soccer can either be either very exciting or EXTREMELY boring. The latter is much more common. I do find the Champions League good to watch but I would almost never watch a Premiership match. I do hope however that Man Utd. lose it this year, which looks like a real possibility.

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Originally Posted by ntdoc
Originally Posted by Ian
It is a heavy lens at 11.7 pounds


Crap that's heavier than a fully loaded AK-47
AK-47


LOL. Can't imagine carrying that around!


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