I'm no frames fan either, but "horrid"...I dunno know about all that... <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
I only use them when absolutely necessary, like with this site. I have a bunch of ASP running in that section..mainly there's some code for handling in-bound associate links and co-branding the site accordingly. They'd all be pissed if suddenly "their" Foot Talk Forum was showing a MyFootShop masthead...
example:
http://www.myfootshop.com/associate.asp?...t=000510#000000
