Thanks driv, I did install threads, as per the install guide, and did the long import process to get familiar with it as you suggested. I show 13 forums on the CP but the side bar tells me I have no forums installed, I am trying to figure this out, but, my question to you is: another topic on the threads board says that if you import the info again you will end up with all duplicates, if this is a fact is there a workaround? I really appreciate your help, Tim