Okay, new information:
I redid the whole process of copying the USERS permissions into the TROUBLE MAKERS group and then set "All new posts are moderated" to 1 (not -1) for all of my forums for the TROUBLE MAKERS group. I then went in and removed this user from the USERS group, and added them to the TROUBLE MAKERS group.
And it works
Sheesh!
Thank again Ruben.
Now we know it’s possible (but not for the faint of heart).