Now I understand.
our Company IP address is as bad according to Stop forum spam and i had settings set to Auto with Silent Fail

changing it to Auto with Message brought up a message with that info.
with Manual or Semi-Auto its still possible to login.. and there was light finally..

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Spam Protection Level

You have four choices; Manual (initial setting), Semi-Auto, Auto with message to Registrant and Auto with silent Fail. Each have their pros and cons.
•Manual - This allows the Admin to easily check new registrations with one click
•Semi-Auto - This automatically checks new registrations in member management, but might delay, if there are timeouts with StopForumSpam
•Auto with Message - Adds to Semi-Auto and gives a new registrant a message that they were blocked and how to remedy the situation
•Auto with Silent Fail - Does what Auto with Message does, but fails silently, which might fool spammers into thinking they signed up.


Morgan Johansson
BritBike Forum
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