Thanks, I've been waiting two days for an email with a password, nothings arrived yet. My clients are not happy, I'm not happy!!! it looks like I will have to ditch ubbthreads and setup something else. It's a real shame because it looks ideal but I can't afford to wait any longer. If nothing happens befre this weekend 25/1/04 I'll have to move on. I do hope something can be done because I hate to waste all the work I've done on this. I will try filling in a support ticket to see if anything happens.