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#195639 08/29/2007 1:31 AM
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I remember reading a thread somewhere here that mentions how older Photopost integration will no longer work due to some changes in permissions tables or some such 7.2 change?

Are there any members of this community interested in developing, or already developing, an integration for UBBT 7.2 to allow universal logins with Gallery2? Frankly, we tried PP with UBBT years ago...but the majority of our community really prefer the look and feel of Gallery2.

On the Texas Offroad site, we would like to allow blog-type posts for "Ride Reports" but the new Gallery forums testing we've done is not giving us the results we were looking for. Using blogware, like Wordpress, seems redundant and labor intensive, if we could accomplish the same user/reader experience with a UBBT special effects technique.

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I should crearify what we have in mind and maybe it will spark some ideas or enthusiasm here as well...

Below is a copy and paste from our TON Admin discussions --

The absolute best of both worlds would be to develop the ability to...

1) Quickly log in to your user account and upload an entire folder of photos from your PC into a Gallery album on the TON server,

2) Jump over to the Ride Report / Event Report forum of your choice and create a new thread,

3) Using the normal Post/Reply page tools, find a NEW option to "attach an inline photo from any TON Gallery here" using the same sort of quick tool as is used for adding a smilie,

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Basically my idea is to allow each user to use a BROWSE window (some sort of javascript popup?) to VISUALLY search the TON gallery directory of folders and albums.

Since most users don't take the time to "tag" their photos properly prior to uploading, it's almost impossible to identify them by "name" later, so they would need to visually look through the photo album and click and choose the photo they want to add.

You would need to code in a minimum and maximum size for the inline photo to display...preferably using the old "small/medium/large" method used for display in the Gallery albums themselves as the default settings for the UNNT integration as well.

Then the user can find the photo, link directly to the Gallery, pull the photo from there (I realize this may require a duplication of disk storage space, but that's not a huge thing) to present it in the thread in a blog-like manner, and basically create a monologue to integrate with their post and photos.

The only other option our users may ask for that relates to this is -- to also have another post/reply option that simplifies things by allowing them to "add a link to a TON Gallery Photo Album" -- and have it open in a totally new TON forum master page window.


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FYI, this was with the OLD photopost and UBB7; the newer version of PP should work with UBB7 (as rick helped them set the integration up). UBB7 however does have a built in gallery (as of UBB7.2).


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With that said....we refined things a bit more with this post...

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In reply to: BUD -- ** QUOTE **
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We're thinking along the same lines in regards to how it should work.

I can see this being used in the classified sections as well. We will probably need to enforce a maximum number of photos for the ads.

1. Upload a number of photos to a temporary directory creating thumbnails and full size images.
2. Write the text.
3. Inside the text, click a button to insert an image just as you would to add an icon .
4. Select an image from the uploaded group by viewing the images and clicking.
5. Upon saving, transfer the selected images to permanent storage as used by UBBT and delete the temporary image directory.


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OK....you're taking this in a slightly different direction...and it appears to be simpler. So let me see if I'm with you here...

1) The TON member does NOT create a Gallery Photo Album at all, but instead the photos are "held in a temp folder" that the TON member loads photos into.

2) Then the user assigns them to a position within a post...as you said, just like adding a smilie icon.

3) Then once they hit the POST button, the photos are captured into the default "UBBT Attachments" folder that all photos/files go to....and treated/regarded the same as any other attachment or in-line attachment?


If I've got that right, it's a heck of alot simpler to code, but may not be easy to manage.

As you're doing it, you really only need the thumbs for the user page where the TON poster "chooses" the photos, right? But wouldn't the thumbs also need to be stored, so the user can edit, add, remove, etc later?

Of course, we have to ask ourselves...how popular will this method of posting be?...and how often will a person who creates a thread want to go back and edit things?...and is it worth the effort to get complicated, or do we offer this feature as a "you can create a thread easy, but editing will require you to re-upload your photos again"??

For what the average person wants....I just don't know. Most of the time, simple is better...

And as we already know....the average user doesn't really need alot of fancy stuff...just tools that work.



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With that said, let me take it back to the UBBT/Gallery integration question --

My reasoning for creating an actual Gallery Photo Album first is to be able to pre-define all the variables and images.

It's been awhile since I worked in Gallery Admin settings, but as I recall, you can pre-define the sizes for thumbs, medium size, and large size...right?

If so, having those sizes pre-set for all albums would allow any User to use any album for a Ride Report....no need to create a specific set of "Gallery Albums for Ride Reports" category with a pre-determined uneditable profile.

The permissions may be the greater hurdle....and I'm not sure it's possible to integrate Gallery.

My first guess is to see if you can remove the permissions coding that Gallery uses now...and replace it with the permissions coding that UBBT 7.2 uses...or see if you can allow UBBT to set the cookie and pick it up from UBBT for Gallery?


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I've giving my original post some thought. Some of this may be repeating myself, but some is new --


1) Some how, UBBT would already have the User Permissions to integrate Gallery under the same Username.

Everything after this point hinges on the fact that ALL TON USERS would now be able to create and manage Gallery Photo Albums from their UBBT User permissions. That means a totally revamped Gallery interface...basically using the Gallery wrapper you used on TSCEC...or a new version of the old master UBBT empty template, right?

2) Some method (popup window) or a UBBT wrapper (look alike master template page) could be used to pull in the appropriate top level on a TON Member Photo Albums Index page that displays albums - and the thumbs inside of those albums - owned by that user.

3) They already have the Ride Report Album under their Username -- and use it as the "folder" to which they would "browse" and "upload" the photos they wish to include in the Ride Report thread...using your simple icon method to "add image file here"...(with some code to add two <break> tags above and two tags below the image file, for blank white space and to avoid wierd word wrapping issues?)

4) You can have UBBT pull the medium size image files from the Gallery database into the thread display on-the-fly, so editing later is unaffected....or....you tell UBBT to "copy and paste" the medium size image files in the default UBBT Attachments folder once the POST button is hit -- (whichever results in less server loads for each page load) -- and then if the post is edited later, have UBBT overwrite old file names or add any new files as needed.

This way, the user can GO BACK and change the content of the post or edit photos out or change them or rearrange them.


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Sorry to all of you here on the UBBT Forums if my post has been too longwinded, but I'm hoping it will give you insight into what we're trying to work out.

Thanks for any comments and suggestions...

Best Regards,

Bob Beamer
Spring,TX
TON Project Mgr.

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Sorry Gizmo....I was overwriting you as you posted.

Thanks for the info on the new PP/UBBT7.2 integration. As I said though, our people really don't like PP much...and my old license would require a fee to upgrade...and Gallery 2 is a really awesome app - with wrappers we use to drop it into pages on other sites already anyway.

Yeah, we've played with the new UBBTGallery feature and we're really disappointed. We also realize that it's a first attempt at a new feature and will undoubtedly be refined over time....but I have yet to see an example of how it creates/imitates a BLOG feature or a GALLERY feature - better than a Blog or Gallery do already...so what is it's purpose?

I am assuming it is to replace and/or simplify the uploading of single photos for inline use?...or the attachment method?

Frankly, we are hoping YOU will read through this dialog we've been having and point out flaws or errors...or possibly positives and potentials...

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i will agree with you about G2, I've been a longtime Gallery user for years (actually just took the plunge to upgrade my G1 to G2 several months ago at www.corthell.net).

If you want a demo on how to make the UBB look like a real gallery, check out my "Elite Web Gamers" link in my signature. I have several "sub galleries" setup as a demo.

As for how they present in the UBB Gallery, we have a gallery forum here at UBBCentral which shows how items are layed out


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Thanks...

BTW...sidenote way off topic...

I may be in Texas, but my immediate family live in Portland and across the river in Vancouver. I've got alot of family in Washington, and in Oregon too...and up into Vancouver, BC, where my mom was born...and across Canada over to Alberta, where my dad was born.

Our Beamer family has been in the Pacific NW since the early/mid 1800's...along with branches of our family (Hoffs and Hoffmans)....so you may see old roads, streams, wanted posters, etc. I was just up there in Portland this past spring...and two years ago as well. Spent some time on the coast.

Great state, great people, great inner city transit, good state parks and ORV trails, not so hip on the weather...

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I was in Spring yesterday, had to go to Mini of the Woodlands for some Mini Cooper maintenance smile


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Yeh, you just listed all of the reasons that I love it here lol... My mom moved down here when she was 16 and our family has been here since.



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