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Search Results Question #198792
10/07/07 11:27 PM
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Mitch P. Offline OP

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If I do a search going back one year, across all forums on my board with this string (including quotes) I get a hit:
"I've never heard of that"

However, if I do a search with this string, I get no hit:
"I've never"

Anyone know why? Thanks.

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Re: Search Results Question [Re: Mitch P.] #198795
10/08/07 12:20 AM
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yes, Mysql's Full Text index (FTI) will throw away the more common words as it builds the index over time. I believe there's a 50% limit that it imposes by default.

In other words, FTI tends to only save the less common words in the index over time.

Evidently 'Never' and "I've" are too common and that is why you are forced to add more specifics to get hits.

This is off the top of my head and i can look into it deeper, but i think that it boils down to a word ranking algorithm that is in place.

2c

Re: Search Results Question [Re: SD] #198798
10/08/07 01:32 AM
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There are also common words that it won't search for either.

I've posted a list here but don't feel like searching for it right now, but that too could be the issue.

Re: Search Results Question [Re: ntdoc] #198802
10/08/07 02:02 AM
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Re: Search Results Question [Re: Gizmo] #198804
10/08/07 03:06 AM
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Re: Search Results Question [Re: ntdoc] #198808
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np; I generally referance the manual when I get bored and run into a stump wink hehe


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Re: Search Results Question [Re: Gizmo] #198818
10/08/07 10:55 AM
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I'm hoping to get the time to put in the option to use the old search engine in 7.3. Basically where it uses "LIKE" instead of fulltext searches. It still performs well on a moderate sized board and is much more flexible that fulltext searching.

Re: Search Results Question [Re: Rick] #198858
10/08/07 07:43 PM
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Mitch P. Offline OP

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Thanks for the explanation.


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