|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235 |
Info for the UK readers: A group called Transaction 2007 is planning a "nationwide legal protest". Protests will start Saturday 15th December 2007 at 10:00am. They say the date was decided by members as "the best possible to enable those who would normally be working during the week to attend." According to a press release on the site, they plan to protest outside refineries or storage depots across the country. You might remember the fuel protest of 2000 which initially gathered strong support from motorists. However, that support quickly turned when many motorists were prevented from filling up because of lorry blockades. PetrolPrices.com expressed to the organisers that they may find public support for another fuel protest providing it was properly planned to be legal and orderly. So far, the Transaction 2007 organisers have been unwilling to confirm to us specifically what action they have planned for this week. When we pressed the group's spokesman, Chris Hunter, he said "This will be a numbers game levied against legislation. I can comment no further." With fuel breaking well beyond the £1 barrier, PetrolPrices.com has had a huge rise in the number of emails from concerned motorists. People were especially angry following the last fuel duty hike imposed by the Government in October. Despite being made aware of the huge resistance from motorists, the Government pushed ahead with the 2p duty increase, leaving the public frustrated and angry. The protests of 2000 achieved some success in that the fuel duty escalator was frozen. However, it has now resumed and with the rising price of oil motorists are paying ever increasing taxation due to VAT on fuel. Unlike fuel duty which is fixed, VAT is charged at 17.5%, so for every 1p increase in the price of fuel, we are actually paying an extra 1.175p.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235 |
Hint: This is a good example of a post that could use an expiry date. After Sat 15th Dec the info above is completely useless.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
Let us hope it has some effect - but I doubt it. I had to laugh when I saw news items in the US, as to the high cost there - it is a lot cheaper than our highly taxed prices. (but I appreciate it is high compared to what they are used to) Sadly the government has made it virtually impossible to protest about fuel costs due to extras laws brought in to make it illegal. As I can pay half the current price in Europe it goes to show how much tax is being levied.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1
Former Developer
|
Former Developer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1 |
don't UKers have to pay a tax to use TV ?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235 |
don't UKers have to pay a tax to use TV ? It's a TV License - http://www.bbc.co.uk/info/licencefee/Our friends in Cyprus roll around laughing when we mention things like Road Tax, TV License, Council Tax, VAT @ 17.5%, Inheritance Tax, Stamp Duty, etc, etc, etc. It keeps them amused for hours.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
We pay a tax for everything LOL
Mind you I think the tax for having a dog doesn't apply now - but it used to.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358 |
Come to holland, we still have dog tax
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116 |
To eat, or keep? :snicker:
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1
Former Developer
|
Former Developer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,095 Likes: 1
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,095 Likes: 1 |
We pay a tax for everything LOL I believe that is why America revolted in 1776 isn't it? Too many taxes. 200+ years later it's still going on there.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116 |
They said Europe, not Alabama...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,143
Pooh-Bah
|
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 2,143 |
We pay a tax for everything LOL I believe that is why America revolted in 1776 isn't it? Too many taxes. 200+ years later it's still going on there. I think it was more the "taxation without representation" that was the issue. No idea as to whether that has changed or not. Don't know their government structure at all.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956
Old Hand
|
Old Hand
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956 |
Dog Tax in Berlin/Germany: 120euros per year for the first dog, 180euros per year for second and third. No more dogs allowed without special permissions. Thats 175$ and 260$ per year
Fuel price in Berlin right now: 95oct and 98oct are equal at 1,309 euro per liter Diesel cost 1,289 euro per liter
thats 1,90$ and 1,87$ per liter, not per gallon! Prices for 1 gallon are 7,201$ and 7,09$
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
Our diesel is around £1.08 per litre. Which is €1.51 or $2.21 per litre. This equates to almost $9 per US gallon!! Zarzal - must be worth your time driving into Luxembourg to by your fuel - I paid around €0.85 a litre there just over a month ago.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116 |
I drive in a vheacle at max 20 miles or so a month lol... Unless it's a bus, but I don't have to pay astranomically for that
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956
Old Hand
|
Old Hand
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956 |
Ian, you dont pay extra tax for a car in UK, right? We have also tax for the car (different for each motor modell per 100ccm). In UK is the car tax included in fuel tax as I know. So the total tax is in germany the worst in total europe
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
No - we pay a road tax - around £200 / $400 / €280 per year.
Of course we are also taxed on the purchase of a car as well.
Mind you - you can still drive at unlimited speed on some of your roads - popped into Germany a month or so ago (driving back from Portugal to the UK) - had no idea what the speed limit was though on the roads we drove along (except where there were clear signs!)
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1
Former Developer
|
Former Developer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1 |
I drive in a vheacle at max 20 miles or so a month lol... Unless it's a bus, but I don't have to pay astranomically for that dude, FF has a spell check option..
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
Yes - but isn't that how you guys pronounce 'vehicle' as opposed to 'veerkel'
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956
Old Hand
|
Old Hand
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956 |
BTW: SD, can you tell me how to install german and english spell check and switch it? I have german dictonary active and see here all marked
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1
Former Developer
|
Former Developer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1 |
Zarzal, i have no clue.. i just use Engrish... i'd expect YOU to tell ME how it works hehe
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235 |
can you tell me how to install german and english spell check and switch it? Are you talking about Firefox? If so, when you're in a text box right-click the mouse and select Languages / Add Dictionaries. Once you have your dictionaries installed you should be able to swap between them by going back to the Languages menu.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358 |
Of course we are also taxed on the purchase of a car as well. Well, welcome to holland where you pay extra tax over your tax I pay €600 road tax a year, for a small car. We also have a special car tax called bpm, that's an added, 42.5%. And over that bpm tax, we also pay VAT of 19%. Oh well.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
yes - but at least you can go most places on a bike & have a fairly decent transport system
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1
Former Developer
|
Former Developer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1 |
sheesh.. you guys are bordering on socialism.. /me hides shotguns in the closet and income tax returns
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235 |
We need a license for those too - shotguns that it. You also need a valid reason for owning one and the police have to visit and check that they are kept in a secure locked cabinet before anything is issued. You also need a license to go fishing.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1
Former Developer
|
Former Developer
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,940 Likes: 1 |
well, Fishing licenses here too at least.. $35 per year for fresh water.. then $7 per extra stamp.. like saltwater, extra pole etc etc. and i don't really mind that, because it pays for the restocking of the rivers and lakes with fresh fish.. so some of the fees are similar..
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
it is all swings and roundabouts
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358 |
and i don't really mind that, because it pays for the restocking of the rivers and lakes with fresh fish.. All in all, I don't really care about the taxes. You need money to keep the country running, and whether they take a healthy income tax, a healthy vat or whatever, the total money they need doesn't really change. Our road taxes are a lot higher then for instance belgium, but the roads are way better. So I am not too unhappy about coughing up the money, but I do like complaining about it once in a while
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,095 Likes: 1
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,095 Likes: 1 |
We complain because they keep spending our money on too much USELESS stuff.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358
Veteran
|
Veteran
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,358 |
Ah, we complain basicly to complain And yep, we see money wasted too by our government, but I see enough of it coming back for good stuff. I sometimes waste money too, that's only human.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 16,302 Likes: 116 |
We complain because they keep spending our money on too much USELESS stuff. They do that in every country :x...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,095 Likes: 1
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,095 Likes: 1 |
Ah, we complain basically to complain Hey, how did you find the TRUTH
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956
Old Hand
|
Old Hand
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956 |
Scriptkeeper, thank you, I found it and can switch now.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956
Old Hand
|
Old Hand
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956 |
better dont translate this. The 'Your welcome' can be translated as 'gern geschehen'.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235
veteran
|
veteran
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,235 |
Altavista translates that as "gladly happen". Google says it's "like happen". Did I post a bad phrase? Thought I'd give it a try but maybe not.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956
Old Hand
|
Old Hand
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 956 |
Thats the problem with colloquial speech
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,474 Likes: 3
Pooh-Bah
|
Pooh-Bah
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 2,474 Likes: 3 |
A group called Transaction 2007 is planning a "nationwide legal protest". Protests will start Saturday 15th December 2007 at 10:00am. Did this actually happen?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837
Carpal Tunnel
|
Carpal Tunnel
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,837 |
Yes - but I think they were fairly low key - the government put out a load of spin as to how any protests would be illegal etc.
|
|
|
|
Test
by Phun - 05/28/2024 7:31 PM
|
|
0 members (),
441
guests, and
174
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
|