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7.6 take significantly longer to load #259959
03/25/17 05:24 PM
03/25/17 05:24 PM
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Hi

I noticed my self right away that the 7.6 takes longer to load. Left column and header/footer is quick but the actual forum takes a bit longer than 7.5.9 did.
A few of our members has mentioned this as well like below person did. Do we have an answer for this that I can sharewith my members?


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Morgan,

Thanx again for all you do, I understand your time constraints.

Just an OBSERVATION (NOT a complaint) - the forum take significantly longer to load on my computer, (with cookies cleaned, so that's not contributing).


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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259960
03/25/17 08:16 PM
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When I'm at your site with an ad blocker, your site loads very quick. But as soon as I view it with all the ads you've got turned on, especially the Shareaholic (which is proven to slow sites to a crawl), your site takes a while to navigate through pages. I'm on an intel i7-4790 CPU @ 4GHz w/32GB of DDR3-1866 RAM, and still get slowed down -- no mater how fresh my OS install is, or which browser I am running.

Turning OFF Shareaholic will instantly improve page-load times.

The rest of your ads all seem to be static images or straight-forward animated gifs. While those increase the size of your page and the time is required to download each page, they are not flash/script-based. This is good laugh Thought, you do have at least 11 ads running on each and every page.

EDIT:
If disabling Shareaholic is not something you want to do, you could optimize it. Have a quick read through these two links
https://support.shareaholic.com/hc/en-us/articles/204339849-Shareaholic-and-Site-Speed
and
http://www.dianastarts.com/shareaholic-wordpress-slow-down/

Both found through doing a Google search for "shareaholic slow"

Last edited by isaac; 03/25/17 08:27 PM. Reason: added Shareaholic optimize / links
Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259962
03/26/17 02:29 AM
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If you look at the debug information in your footer:
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Page Time: 0.028s Queries: 9 (0.007s) Memory: 1.6056 MB (Peak: 1.7083 MB) Zlib disabled. Server Time: 2017-03-26 07:27:15 UTC


You can see that the page was generated pretty quickly, it's the external assets (javascript, images, etc) that're slowing down the users browser after the page is built.

If you're looking to trim any bloat, Pingdom has a test for showing all assets that your page generates.


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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259963
03/26/17 02:57 AM
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Your comments are good as it makes me think and understand about general load times but it actually is different after 7.6 and I have not altered anything so I was asking if 7.6 is maybe more sensitive than 7.5.9 was.


I see that it loads the header and left column fast and the the forum and footer with a delay up to several seconds.
Its not a big issue but if I keep getting complaints then I maybe need to delete some of the scripts

I have had a script call for the banner schem there for almost 20 years, and some static banners and nowadays google analytics, ebay and shareaholic scrips.


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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259964
03/26/17 03:21 AM
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Isaac, I only have shareaholic share and follow icons, no banners exposed from them.


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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259965
03/26/17 05:58 AM
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On my forum in have 34 active forums with Shareaholic and my debug info is Page Time: 0.081s Queries: 11 (0.012s) Memory: 2.8090 MB (Peak: 3.0316 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-03-26 10:52:50 UTC. It loads fairly fast. This is my beagle forum.

Now on my other site I have 11 forums and the debug is Page Time: 0.029s Queries: 10 (0.006s) Memory: 2.5231 MB (Peak: 2.6516 MB) Zlib enabled. Server Time: 2017-03-26 10:56:01 UTC and I'm also running Shareaholic. Both load very quickly.

I was using an iPad 3 with both and they loaded rather quickly, with in 2 - 3 seconds each.

I'm running 760 release 20170223

Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259966
03/26/17 02:32 PM
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JAISP, yup, 0.029s to load the PHP, with the 0.006s seconds to execute 10 database queries, is pretty good


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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259967
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I was not sure but I thought it looked ok for what I'm currently running.

Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: isaac] #259971
03/28/17 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by isaac


Turning OFF Shareaholic will instantly improve page-load times.


I just commented out the shareaholic code, and the pages load instant compared to previously.
BTW i'm on 7.5x

Never even give it a thought until i read this post.

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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259974
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I don't have any problems with Shareaholic, but then again, I have all of their advertising code disabled and only use share buttons (even if you THINK you don't have ads installed, they turned them on for everyone, so go in and turn them back off, especially the one that Isaac's article mentions as it's basically "hidden" as opposed to the other options that're fairly clear).


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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259975
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Even with all the ads turned off I could see it trying to launch ads on a mobile device. Never make any money from the ads, and to be fair our members don't use it that much.

I will test with the settings you mention when I get a moment to try it out.


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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259976
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Even this? Because this can cause load issues...

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Re: 7.6 take significantly longer to load [Re: Morgan] #259980
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