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Hello <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> (6.7.1)

I've been keeping my board up to date over the years, but I've let things slip a little, recently.

I am still running 6.7.1 because I thought (at the time) this would have been the last ubb release.

Anyhow, with that thought in mind - I installed some very minor ubbdev hacks. (Flags and Admin-password)

Although I could reset my board to the pre 6.7.1 settings, I was wondering whether I could be lazy and just wait for the next gen product and upgrade from there?

Or will everyone have to be at 6.7.3 (or latest) at the time of release?

Thanks
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I'll have to defer this question to Charles Capps. He would be the person that would be able to tell you that information.

IMO, there isn't any big reason to upgrade within 6.7.x until we're ready for the "NextGen" product; myself i'm staying with 6.7.2 until then, the only reason to upgrade for me is for the upgrades to the importer...

Thanks for that guys.
I wonder how important the changes are to the importer....?

Well, if you're not planning on exporting to another forum type there is no reason to upgrade just for the importer <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Ahhhh <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
I thought it was necessary for the upgrade to NextGen.

Ooops <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

You will need to upgrade in order to move to "NextGen"... however, it won't be to 6.7.3, but to a new version of Classic that will be released around the same time.

Ah ha! Good to know this.

So, presumably, all boards will upgrade only when *not* mod'ed....?

(Which isn't unreasonable.)

1 year after the planned NextGen beta relase that never happened, is there a release date yet today?

Perhaps in a month, or a year at least? ANY information?

There hasn't been any recent informaiton provided by Infopop/Groupee about a release date to the public yet, stay tuned to the newsletters, thats where everyone gets their intel.

We'll announce it here before it goes out in the newsletters.

Yes, we do have dates. Ask again in about a month and a half and I might be able to give you something a bit less vague.

(And in case you guys are wondering, there are really good reasons it's taking so long... all will be explained in time.)

>ask again in about a month and a half and I might be able to give you something a bit less vague.

OK, today it is ABOUT a month and a half later, so can you give us something bit less vague today?

We did reach our internal date goal scheduled for earlier this month, which was what I was referencing in my last post in this topic. At the time, I kinda assumed we'd be able to tell everyone what was going on after that date, but that isn't the case quite yet.

There will be an announcement in the relatively near future.

That sounds great!!! <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

Which part of what Charles wrote sounds great?!

...that part....

There will be an announcement in the relatively near future.

You ARE aware though that "relatively near future" can mean a year, aren't you?

Oh ye of little faith.

The announcement is currently penciled in for early next week. If that changes, I'll be sure to post here.

Early this week, ok, waiting patiently.
Just to make sure, today is tuesday, right?

Patience Grasshopper. Remeber they are on the West Coast, so they are a couple of hours behind us. We've already waited this long, a little while longer never hurt anyone.

Frankly, I am not worried about hours, I am worried about days and months.

Last I checked, it was supposed to be today, but I know there were some edits needed, so it could be delayed.

What a long, strange odyseey it's been.

Well ... I hope we'll all be singing praises. I'm sure you are a little tired of being raked over the coals.

Has anyone else noticed CC's title has been changed? CC == Best Admin we've ever had at a UBB Community <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

I did. And I can't say I like the implications of it, since Charles was the only one who at least gave us some info...

Hmmm why has CC Title changed to "Member" ... is he no longer Administrator here?

Charles is no longer with the company, he has left us, and he will be missed. Please understand that for privacy reasons it would be most improper for us to say any more than that.

We wish Charles the best of luck in the future and thank him for his contributions.

So David, how does the affect "the release?" We were told there was to be news early this week.

Good luck to you Charles!

Did he left because he was as disappointed with Groupee as most of the ubbthreads users are at the moment? Was it because there will be no more downloadable product from Groupee in the future?

Excuse me but I think we, UBB.classic fans, deserve an explanation after this situation. I knew that Charles Capps was one of the lead programmers of NGP, am I wrong? And could you tell why he left this project after so many years and when he said that there will be an announcement soon?

/me waves hi to nav....hey nav, how you been

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I'm certain those questions will remain unanswered.

Let's keep this discussion relevant to the topic of the Next Gen product, or I will be forced to close this one up.

You're right.

So, WHEN will the next gen product be available for download?

Yes, when?

Judging from Charles' comments over on UBBdev - notably, the part about picking a time to leave Groupee that wouldn't hurt the product - I'm guessing it's quite close to completion, if not already totally done and ready to go. Of course, I could be way off. But that's sorta the way I read into what he said.

That being said, everyone and their brother asking 'when' ain't gonna get it here any faster. I'm just as anxious as the next guy. But these guys seem to operate on a philosophy similar to Blizzard. "It may take a lot longer than we told you originally... and we may strip out some of the stuff that we promised would be there... but when it does come out, it'll still rock your freakin' face off."

---Jamin

May I quote you <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

"Please... for the love of everything sacred and holy... give us SOMETHING! Give us a screenshot. Give us a release date. Give us access to just ONE beta demo site. I don't care. Just give us ANYTHING!"

announcement made during your above post <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Touché. <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

To be fair, though, that's one post, made several months ago. I count at least 7 from you in the last week.

But who's counting? The announcement's up now, that's all that matters. <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

---Jamin

For those that have not seen it, the announcement can be found at https://www.ubbcentral.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/9/66.html#000000

*yawn* -rubs eyes-

What's all this?

I can't help it, but I fell very confused about all what is happening!
What is going to happend, and what am I to do?

I've been using UBB.classic since 98 and for the last years I've been waiting for the "Next Generation" of UBB to come, and now when it arrives my feelings are a bit.... odd?
There is no next generation of UBB! The announcement is that it will be a new version of UBB.threads.
I must say that I have not paid any attention for what has going on with UBB.threads, but for the last weeks I been reading a bit on a few forums and I must say that I do not feel comfortable with the situation.

My UBB.classic license will end in July and here I stand with the option to extend it, or change to something new...

My big thoughts about all this, is "What shall I do?", "Is this something that Groupee puts there heart into?" ????

Quite recently I saw the information that it was only four people working with the new generation product, and then right when the big news is to be released to the public, the guy (Charles) who said it leaves the company.
This leaves only three people...
Around the same time and before the big news, Groupee's only response is a message in the board that they offer all users to change product to their hosted solution.
More than a week later the big news comes... and it is nothing new but simply an upgrade of UBB.threads.
(OK, a lot of things is rewritten, but still it is "only" an upgrade...)

Why does Groupee offer us all to shift to their hosted stuff just before the big news?
Why can't I find anything about the next generation UBB on the groupee home page? Don't they want to be related to it or what?
I have so many why, why, why?

And almost no answers...

OK, I have the big news, where some features are listed.
But, this leaves more questions, at least for me...
And then again, when? No actual date! Only an alpha release date.
As for the beta release date, my feeling is that it was promised a long time ago... so why should I trust it this time?

I am sorry for the negative feelings, but this is how i feel.

Will Groupee, or whatever company that develops UBB.threads, continue to develop and maintain this product?
Why should I stick with it?
What are the future plans for this next generation product?
I get the feeling the Groupee does not want to be related to this, so how can I be sure that they will continue with this next generation?


Why should I not move to another product, that has a positive "go" in it?
Why should I not move on to, for instance, FusionBB?
What will be better for me to upgrade to UBB.theads instead of changing to something else?


My license is soon to expire, so I feel that I must do something.
I doubt very much that UBB.threads 7 will be released before my license expire, so should I pay for something that still does not exist, or should I move on and abandon this for something else?

Please, help me...

Let me address a few of your points that I am able to address

From the Announcement:
While the new product was originally designed to replace UBB.classic and UBB.threads, we wound up using much more of the core design of UBB.threads. Thus, we are now considering the new product an upgrade of UBB.threads, rather than a replacement.

Just because your Member's Area expires in July doesn't mean that you have to renew on that date. You could wait until the release to renew your Member's Area. This is not the case if you are using a Leased License.

I have not seen such an offer posted. The only thing close to what you are saying is that they were having a chat for those who were interested in changing. They never offered all users to change to the hosted solution.

They want UBBCentral.com, soon to be UBBThreads.com to be the home for the downloadable products.

You won't see a release date until closer to the actual release. You cannot predict how many bugs you will squash during a beta period.

Groupee tends not to divulge anything beyond what has been announced.

Thanks Ron for trying to answer my doubts, but I still feel like a big questionmark...

If you are happy with .classic you could always stay with it until you see the new stuff in action and then make your decision about what you'd like to do - stay on classic, move to the new groupee software or to another brand. I plan to stay with classic on my personal site for the near future - it does what I need and my users (some who've been a member 7+ years) are familiar with it and why fix what isn't broke? <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

We'll continue to do (unsupported by groupee) development/support over at www.ubbdev.com as long as there's interest in it. Charles is one of our lead admins there so I don't expect things to change much. <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />