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What method is best for working out which of my members
e-mail addresses are valid or invalid.

Any suggestions. ?

With classic i would trace the bounce backs on a mail shot?
Is this the best way with V7 ?


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Well, there are several aticles online on checking for valid emails (without having to do the whole validation email thing), but several are way bugged...

some check the server to see if there is a valid address (not all servers respond the same way however)
some check to ensure properly formed domains with an mx entry (which can be bugged as the RFC states that if there is no MX entry that the A record is a valid entry)
some just check to ensure the characters entered follow the RFC (like no nonlatin characters, or special characters other than _-; however this doesn't work properly as it doesn't actually validate a thing).

so the best method, email the address and make them click a link wink... If they don't click the link within X ammount of days, expire the link and delete their details.


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As that went straight over my head,
as that's what to do and not how to do it frown

Does Threads do Bounce backs from mail shots ?
I can test this myself, but wondering if someone
has the answer ? Just to save me a little time smile


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Well, in order to have threads check to see if mail bounces, it'd have to either:
  • Have an email pipe in your aliases config on your server so that when mail is recieved it is processed by threads to suspend or delete an account.
  • Act as a pop3 client and download email from an account and process emails accordinly


Both well beyond the scope of threads at this point (as I think there are some major things that are on the docket to be worked on before dealing with bounced emails (as if a user doesn't approve their email working their details will be purged at registration).


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I was using the daily birthday emails to check for bad email accounts. But something got messed up on my end with my mail, and I stopped getting the bounces, although I did confirm the emails are still going out.

I recently did a mass email and used the bounces to check for bad accounts.

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Invalid e-mail adresses are just a fact of internet life, including valid e-mails that sometimes get caught up in spam filters.

I just live with it, and just delete all those bounces that come back.


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Originally Posted by Mitch P.
I recently did a mass email and used the bounces to check for bad accounts.
Cheers smile

Originally Posted by blaaskaak
I just live with it, and just delete all those bounces that come back.
Yarp wink

Originally Posted by Gizmo
Well, in order to have threads check to see if mail bounces, it'd have to either:
  • Have an email pipe in your aliases config on your server so that when mail is recieved it is processed by threads to suspend or delete an account.
  • Act as a pop3 client and download email from an account and process emails accordinly


Both well beyond the scope of threads at this point (as I think there are some major things that are on the docket to be worked on before dealing with bounced emails (as if a user doesn't approve their email working their details will be purged at registration).
Less Valium Giz wink
But thanks for the insite smile


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are we sure it's Valium ? :shrug:

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energy pills and booze last I checked; but thanks wink...

Simply laying out all options marky wink


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Originally Posted by Mitch P.
But something got messed up on my end with my mail, and I stopped getting the bounces, although I did confirm the emails are still going out.
Spam filter kicking in perhaps?

Originally Posted by Mitch P.
I recently did a mass email and used the bounces to check for bad accounts.
But what happens for those users who have opted not to receive emails?

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The system doesn't send mail to users who set that they don't want admin emails (or have no setting at all).


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
(or have no setting at all).


which sadly is the default frown

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Exactly my point. wink

Sending mass emails and waiting for bouncebacks is only going to highlight bad email addresses of those users who have opted to receive Admin emails. A bit of a waste of time really.

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