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I have a feeling there’s an answer to this query on this board somewhere, can’t find it though. Ever since upgrading to version 7 neither I nor my users can login on the first try; i.e., it takes two login attempts before login is successful. Anyone know why this is and/or how to fix it?

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It is probably a cross domain issue, when you move over from www.domain.com to domain.com or vica versa.


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If what blaaskaak said is true, try entering both domains (with and without 'www'), and any other domains used here:

Control Panel » Primary Settings » Advanced Options » Domains for HTTP Referer Check:

Example:
http://example.com|http://www.example.com


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That was it! Thanks!

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jgeoff, that won't matter, it will always direct the user to whatever url is set as your primary when posting forms (a new thread, a reply, a login, etc). The only real fix for this is to forward users to one domain when they access threads (as cross domain cookies are a nono) -OR- Rick could build in some sort of check for the domain the user is on when accessing yoru board and forward accordingly (which I like as you can also build in weather or not they're accessing through SSL or not)


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I'm not disagreeing with you, I was simply just trying to make a suggestion that might help him/her (or anyone searching this issue in the future), given the symptoms. And I'm glad it worked out for him/her. wink


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"them" perhaps; shorter that way... lol...

BTW, wasn't meaning to sound mean with my statement, was horrendously busy when typing (as will I be for the rest of the night configuring a client's server)


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"them" means more than one person. tongue

Luckily I have a thick skin, so no prob. I just like trying to give suggestions to help -- during the fact... and more often than not, they seem to be helpful. wink


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Another one is that if they have your forums on a Favorites
and the URL is with or with out the "www" ive found with
my members is the main cause of this wink


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EJH, there are 2 solutions to the problem. Either add some code that will force your url one way (a hack is available on ubbdev), or using an .htaccess file to force them.

Since our board is reachable through 2 domains, I opted for adding the code. If your issue is just www. or non www. I'd suggest the .htaccess way.


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I own like 8 domains for my site, and it's pretty dynamic... So I would so prefer the ability for threads to be "smart" about posting form information...


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That would be the best, that any url would just have a look at the current url.

That actually wouldn't be such a difficult hack, just check the domain the user is currently on and replace the full url in the config with that value.

But it would need more, like automaticly correcting posted url's on the forum.


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easy, php http_host variable; you can also check if https is on in php; so it's not like it's a matter of compatability as both existed in php4 wink...


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But only that would not deliver a problem free environment!


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Your last statement confuses me...


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If you do not force everybody to the same url, there is no real solution of a trouble free forum where you can stay logged in forever. You can get a long way, but not to the very end.


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sure you can, they access the site via a url, they're logged in at that url (with the cookie set to that url); thus it does not forward the user to a DIFFERANT url, they stay at the same domain/subdomain the entire visit.

If they access via a differant url, then it's obvious why they wouldn't be logged in wink


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
sure you can,

Sure they can't, you say it yourself:

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If they access via a differant url, then it's obvious why they wouldn't be logged in wink


As I said, besides forcing everyone to one url, there is no easy way to make sure they always keep logged in. Especially with external links to the forum.


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Actually, that was in reference to the CURRENT system; my comment before was to CHANGE the system to NOT force the form to post to a SPECIFIC URL... Which would cause you to stay on one URL, logged in to that one URL, and never have the forum direct you to any other URL than what you're on...

Thus, yes, it is possible with the CHANGE I propose above...


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
Thus, yes, it is possible with the CHANGE I propose above...


Where exactly do you see me arguing that fact? I'm arguing that it's not the total solution.

b.t.w., you would need to do more for that, users can also post links within the forum in a post, islands are cached and do not look at user preferences so a post island would also link to the full url in the config. Probably more trouble just around the horizon when you would actually implement a solution.


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My proposal is for UBB generated links; not user input.


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
My proposal is for UBB generated links; not user input.


Post islands are UBB generated links, and come from a cache and are general and not user specific.

I don't have a clue why you keep arguing about it. What's wrong with admitting there is no simple solution that ends all cross domain cookie issues if you want to have your board working (and stay active) on different domains.


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I'm saying, if the UBB actually generates a link (as in anything other than the admin putting a link in to a page) that the UBB just read http_host... I fail to see what isn't being understood

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Unfortunately, relying on http_host doesn't always work. In fact, Mors' server is a perfect example. We have a function in 7.3 that uses the http_host env variable to generate the current url. That doesn't work on his server, so I had to change it. server_name doesn't work either.

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Originally Posted by Mors
The EU likes it so much they just fined Bill Gates over a billion dollars smile

Actually it's the second time. The first time Microsoft refused to pay. So far they're not paying this time either, but time will tell wink

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Originally Posted by ntdoc
Originally Posted by Mors
The EU likes it so much they just fined Bill Gates over a billion dollars smile

Actually it's the second time. The first time Microsoft refused to pay. So far they're not paying this time either, but time will tell wink

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Originally Posted by Rick
Unfortunately, relying on http_host doesn't always work. In fact, Mors' server is a perfect example. We have a function in 7.3 that uses the http_host env variable to generate the current url. That doesn't work on his server, so I had to change it. server_name doesn't work either.
I'd be curious to see what PHPInfo generates on his server...



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Weird, I'm looking at mors' phpinfo, and it's populating the _SERVER["HTTP_HOST"] variable... Wondering if it was on a differant site on the server


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Originally Posted by Gizmo
I fail to see what isn't being understood


Same here.


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