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This permission they get the lowest setting, so if they are in any group that can post without moderation, then that's the permission they will get.
The moderator in question belongs to both the Engine Room and the Hidden Forum Group. Both of those groups do not require moderation to post, so his posts will go through.
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Priority's
7 Admin 6 Global Moderator 5 Moderator 4 User 3 Guest 2 Group A 1 Group B
That was my limited understanding?
Is there a setting i can just stop anyone who is a moderator regardless if they are apart of a group or not? As i don't want to stop the other groups?
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From the screen print you provided there are only two groups that have posts moderated: Moderators and Users. That means that all the other groups are not moderated. Including guests. I see that guests can post a reply which will not be moderated but you did not expand the create new topics permissions. Don't know the whole picture of what you are trying to do but you need to set the other groups to be moderated as well. Or remove the non moderated groups from the moderator member Even though say group Engine room can't see the forum, group moderators can. But to post Group moderators is moderated but group engine room is not.
The whole permissions issue can get out of hand the more complicated you make it then try to add the -1 in a few spots. The only way I can figure it out is to make a crib sheet with all the groups,forums,members cross referenced in every senario that could be. Then go in one at a time crib sheet in hand and edit. That is why I trashed all my special groups, to confusing when trying to modify permissions on the fly. Trying to figuer out every possibility.
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From the screen print you provided there are only two groups that have posts moderated: Moderators and Users. That's my intention. Don't know the whole picture of what you are trying to do but you need to set the other groups to be moderated as well. I just want a User and a Moderator to have there posts moderated. Setting the other groups (Which are Private forums) defeats what i'm wanting to achieve. ========================= So from what i'm now understanding, is that a "Custom Group" has more priority than a Moderator Group but not a global moderator or a Admin? I trying to get my head around, how i'm looking at the permissions for future reference. Maybe this needs to be moved over to how to, and then we can thrash it out ?
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How about what I said Or remove the non moderated groups from the moderator member
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No group has a priority over any other. It's related to the up and down arrows next to the permission name. Permissions are cumulative. When you see the up arrow it means the highest permission has priority. When you see the down arrow, the lowest permission has priority.
High permissions are where the higher is better and a bonus for the user/group. Larger attachment sizes, more attachments, etc.
Lower permissions are where a lower permissions is better. Minimum time between posts, being required to view the ad island, having your posts moderated.
So in this case it looks through all of the groups that user belongs to. If it finds a 0 for post moderation in any of their groups, that is going to get applied.
Not to complicate matters more, but this is one case where the -1 permission doesn't work. For high based permissions, if you don't want the group to get that permission no matter what group they belong to, you can put a -1 in the permission for that group. When a -1 is encountered, they don't get the permission period. This obviously doesn't work with low based permissions, since forcing them to not get the permission just means their post still won't be moderated.
In this case, the only way you're going to get this group to have their posts moderated, when they belong to other groups that do not have their posts moderated is remove them from those extra groups. Probably have to make a new group, that gives the same permissions as the other two (hidden forums, engine room), but setting the posts to be moderated.
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I cant ? There Moderators but users in Hidden forums. But Brings an interesting senario to the table?
If you have a "Moderator" and then you have Subscriptions Enabled. What are you going to do then?
You cant just un subscribe a member from a Group when they are a moderator too? What if the Group is a Subscription Group ?
It gets complicated.
I think i need to understand how the priorities work in this scenario, like i say they could be subscriptions.
Is it possible to Moderate Posts Only by a Moderator that are part of private / subscription groups too?
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Thanks for your reply above rick I get it, not what i like, but if i want to get it the way i want i know what i have to do, as the permissions generally is 97 % positive, just the tiny qwerks but its all possible.
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Oh, and another thing we'll be adding is a permission tester. Basically, what that will allow you to do is look at a group and view the actual permissions they'll end up with. So, if you have a user that belongs to multiple groups, you can test it and then it will give a display of what their permission set will actually be.
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Good Good Liking it will help alot of admins too You give any thought to showing the user what he can and cant do? You can create a new topic you can not reply you can make a poll you can not upload On a Help toggle for the members? just an idea.
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