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Hi

I am on a shared host (web.com) but bought VPS space with (interserver.net) now.
First action was to move the database to interserver which is done.

Domain name is registred until 2020 at (network solutions) Next step is to point the domain name to interserver instead of Web.com and at the same time move the forum files.

Now I wonder which is the best way to handle it?

I think that I must close the forum. Then download locally and then upload to Interserver. If so Which files do I need to change so that the paths and so on gets right?
Also I might have to set the file rights to 755 etc.

Any way What is the best procedure?
Also how long do I need to consider for the domain name to point correctly to the new host?
When is a good time to turn on the forum again?

Lots of queries .. wink

I may also consider to get help doing this..

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you can start with Gizmos tip:
https://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/u...izmo_s_UBB_Threads_7_x_Transf#Post178189
A little over complicated in my opinion.

Just follow the part about config.inc.php
After you upload the script files and database.
You need to assign permissions to the folders and files as usual and then need to create upload the database then assign a user name.
To use in the config.inc.php file which you will need to edit all the paths database and database user.
Don't forget about the other stuff like sessions,uploads,etc which is way down on the file.
Just take your time scrolling through the complete file

Then you need to goto your domain registrar(network solutions) and enter the new dns server names from your new host.
This used to take days but it now is like a few hours at most.

Easy way is turn off the board at the old site,turn it on at the new site.
When visitors can see the new site they can use the site.


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I'd follow my transfer guide, it's the most complete one can get a backup; a lot of hosts advise using control panels and such but I've never found a full solution that really works short of getting in there and doing it yourself...

As for moving the domain you could do a couple of things; your account at Interserver has its own DNS management system in the billing area, you can just set your domain records there and use their DNS servers or you could use a 3rd party one, or you could setup a DNS server on your VPS (which I'd generally advise against), or you could use a CDN (such as CloudFlare which has a free option) to host your DNS or as a full CDN solution.

Another route you could do would be to hire out to get everything moved and settled at its new home.


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Thanks for your input.
I do not work with SSH, only FTP, PHPMyAdmin cpanel.

- MySQL database is already at Interserver. This means config.inc.php is changed already as it points to new database.
- The rest remains at the old host web.com.

- now I need to migrate all forum files except the database.
- Also if good then I would like to upgrade from 7.5.6p2 to 7.5.7

The other stuff I need to move is my other website files and
as info I use an very old webadvert rotation banner scheme
and I have not been able so far to get that to work with my new IP address.

- go to domain registrar(network solutions) and enter the new dns server names from your new host. Domain name is paid for until 2020.

One problem is that I should have created a new website as mine is from pre-2000. However I have not found a good software
do do it with.. So i might need to move the old site. I do have altered lots of .htaccess files on my old server wonder if those will do bad things at the new server..
I'm all ears to hear your suggestions, something that will work with UBBThreads.
I think I may take Gizmo's suggestion to get help doing most of above.


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We offer server move services:

https://www.ubbcentral.com/purchase.php

send us an email to info@ubbcentral.com and we'll get you setup.

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Morgan, to move the files it is as simple as using filezilla download files.
Then upload to the new site. You then will need to set the file folder permissions per the ubb install docs and edit the config.inc.php file again for the other paths.
Similar approach for the other web pages.
Then edit the dns record for your domain name so britbike goes to the new site. Or edit a redirect at the old site to goto the new site.
I would upgrade only after the move.

As far as the banner ,your issue is probably that it is using a domain name path and not a ip so until your domain name has migrated to the new server it will not work. Unless you know how to modify the config files for the banner.


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I have used gizmo's guide several times and it worked great every time.


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I have now moved the website pages except the forum,
NOT the domain name yet.

Have limited time so it will take a few days before I start to think about the forum.
Before the forum I think I will have to take care of the web adverts rotating banner scheme and get that going, then the forum.
We'll see when and if I grab assistance.

Thank you very much for the feedback so far.




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OK I have a few more questions.

At this point I have moved not only the mysql database but also most of the website to the new server,
I moved also a couple days old version of the forum files and after doing that
I went back to britbike.com server and closed the "OLD" forum and closed the registrations.

Then I noticed that after using Filezilla to upload the forum files, All directory was set to 755 and files to 644.
I changed THOSE DESCRIBED IN THE INSTALL MANUAL to 777 and all described files to 666.
After this some un mentioned directories/files are still set to 755/644
Next step was to alter the config which I did.

I then used the IP address in a browser and the forum opened and seems to work.
NOTICE I only browsed around and posted nothing. Oh yes I logged in and it worked fine. Then I closed that forum too.
After that I followed the instructions

SO here are a few more questions.

- Should I set All directories to 777 and all files to 666?
- How about the forums directory How do I chmod it?

- When I go to various UBBTHREADS forums and type in URL to different files such as heather.php and footer.php I see three different results.
1, see the page fully in my browser
2, see a blank page
3, see internal error page
How do I set so it is not possible to see full page by typing URL to header.php?

Conclusion at the top seems that It looks like I can go ahead to move the forum files as soon I have above answers how to set correct. Chmod

Thank you for reading all this.

PS
Have not pointed the domain name to new server yet.

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A fresh upload will always have files 644 and directories 755, so that's completely normal; you have to re-chmod things at their new location.

"officially" all UBB directories (now don't go chmodding everything you uploaded that has nothing to do with the UBB lol) should be 777 and files in them 666; this is so they can be updated by the software and it was just "easier" to give a broad scope.

The forum directory itself (that holds the UBB files) should be 755.

As for the last part about accessing header.php; on my site I have all of my little files to be included on every page load in a directory called includes/ and this directory is set to be forbidden from access (a php include will still be able to load the content) then no one can access the files (but really, who's going to KNOW they're actually there)


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I don't do anything special with the includes folder since the only file that is not accessed from every page is the config file and that is a script. All the other files are simple txt files and it is displayed for every page anyway.


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I see your points and also I know now how to set the chmod.
Getting closer to move the domain name and a forum files.

Now I need to sort out why the heck my webadverts rotaing banner scheme is not working on the new server.. That is a pain but its off topic here at UBB.

Thanks so much for your help.. but have fear I'll be back with new questions soon enough.. wink

PS when I tested I noticed it took a third of the time for the database to answer using the new VPS forum file server compared to the old.. That is promising.

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make sure you've updated any paths in the config file for your ad rotator, paths and chmods are about all we can say lol.


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Like I said before for webadverts.
I don't use it but there are several settings/paths to set.
Like the perl path which may be different on the new server. As well as some other absolute paths to the banner files.
But since you have not even moved the name and are using a ip.
You need to set several paths just like ubb and config.inc.php.
But it appears to be in several files.
Try http://awsd.com/scripts/webadverts/
Download the zip file and read the docs file.
http://awsd.com/download/webadverts/webadverts_files.zip


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I think I have altered all paths right but who knows,
The thing I am a bit uncertain of is the cmod as its described in an old way with letters and + signs. Have tried to copy chmods from old site.
Need to bunker now I will have to come back with a fresh brain..
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Since webadverts is EOL.
It just might be time to look for something else.

But anyway a quick google search for chmod a+w
Brings several listings to try.
But again world writable is a risk if somebody is not updating security risks.
Also if you call the banner via say a iframe then that will be broken since again the domain name has not migrated so the placement on the page probably needs to be updated via editing the html pages.


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Originally Posted by Morgan
Thanks for your input. I do not work with SSH, only FTP, PHPMyAdmin cpanel.

- MySQL database is already at Interserver. This means config.inc.php is changed already as it points to new database.
- The rest remains at the old host web.com.

- now I need to migrate all forum files except the database.
- Also if good then I would like to upgrade from 7.5.6p2 to 7.5.7

The other stuff I need to move is my other website files and
as info I use an very old webadvert rotation banner scheme
and I have not been able so far to get that to work with my new IP address.

- go to domain registrar(network solutions) and enter the new dns server names from your new host. Domain name is paid for until 2020.

One problem is that I should have created a new website as mine is from pre-2000. However I have not found a good software
do do it with.. So i might need to move the old site. I do have altered lots of .htaccess files on my old server wonder if those will do bad things at the new server..
I'm all ears to hear your suggestions, something that will work with UBBThreads.
I think I may take Gizmo's suggestion to get help doing most of above.
GOOOOOOOD

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It has worked out with the banner scheme, the host installed perl 5.08 instead of 5.10 and suddenly it worked.. wink My script was obsolete.. ;(.

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I have now moved the forum and website filer to a vps server and it seems to work so far and its mighty fast too.. smile


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See, the benefits of dedicated resources lol...

You signed up at Interserver right? Did you go with the NJ center (their data center) or the CA center (their server bank in Cali)?


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New Jersey Gizmo

I figured I'm in Europe so time wise its closest to me.

I have a lot to learn.. am figuring out how to set the email now and I bet there hundreds of stuff i don't know about.

I had some real trouble before i found out I had tranfered a .htaccess file that screwed up the php.

I may come back and ask for advice.. wink
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Glad you chose NJ; they actually own that center (it's not a colo like the California one) so you'll find support comes a lot faster there lol


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