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Announcement/Changelog Discussion
09/19/18 03:03 AM
Geoff, I noticed that your website header graphic is preventing your FirstGenFirebird forums from being completely mobile friendly (responsive). I'd like to suggest that until you are able to resolve this, that you toggle the "Disable Viewport" setting at Control Panel > Primary.

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Disable Viewport
This will disable the viewport. The viewport element allows your forums to conform to devices with smaller screens, such as smartphones and tablets.


This feature was added in UBB.threads 7.6.1
SOURCE: https://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/u...e-ubb-threads-7-6-1-changelog#Post260649
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[NEW] Responsive layout on mobile devices (viewport) can be disabled from the Control Panel. This setting disables responsive pages for mobile devices such as smartphones and tablets. All pages viewed on mobile devices will have a desktop style layout similar to the old non-mobile versions of UBB.threads (v7.5.x and older).
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Announcement/Changelog Discussion
09/19/18 02:50 AM
Originally Posted by Geoff
Updated today. Was there a change in a setting for signatures as I looked around to see if the signatures were turned off globally or in my preferences somewhere. Our signatures on our board stopped showing up in posts.

Just tried added a signature here too so I could see if it was my board only. Seems to be not working here also.

Thanks in advance - Geoff


Are you on a mobile device? Signatures wont be displayed on mobile devices.
Signatures display just fine on desktops, both here on ubbcentral and on your forums.

Responsive templates were added in UBB.threads 7.6.0.
SOURCE: https://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/u...e-ubb-threads-7-6-0-changelog#Post258629
2016-07-25 - "Signature is now hidden if the page is viewed on a smaller screen."
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Announcement/Changelog Discussion
09/18/18 08:41 PM
Updated today. Was there a change in a setting for signatures as I looked around to see if the signatures were turned off globally or in my preferences somewhere. Our signatures on our board stopped showing up in posts.

Just tried added a signature here too so I could see if it was my board only. Seems to be not working here also.

Thanks in advance - Geoff
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News and Announcements
09/17/18 12:08 PM
UBB.threads 7.6.2 has been released and is now available to download in the Member Area.

Primary Changes In This Release
  • Private Messages/Topics can now be emailed, so a recipient can keep a copy of their PM/PT offsite using their own email service.
  • Inline display of attached PDF documents.
  • Send Private Message page has been cleaned up and made more user friendly.
  • Member Spotlight island header can now be clicked to visit the Member List.
  • Updated Post Icon selection display for improved mobile friendliness.
  • Updated Member Avatar image and Initial display on Post list pages.
  • Member Avatars in the showflat_side/top templates have been corrected to prevent overlapping/leaking in to the post content.
  • Gallery List page will now display lead image to fit 100% of long edge of the image, rather than cropped to center.
  • Avatar display on Post list pages is now Internet Explorer 11 compatible.
  • Mail Post link will only be displayed to Members.
  • PayPal IPN (instant Payment Notification) Verification Postback has been updated to HTTP/1.1 (HTTPS).
  • Emailing members from the control panel has been updated with several new features.
  • Member Editor will display a notice if the member being edited is banned, and for how long.
  • Control Panel Dashboard will display a notice when Debugging is enabled.
  • Control Panel Dashboard now displays Admin Log and Referrer Log entry counts, and will link to each section.
  • A log entry is now created each time your forum sends an Email. This tool can assist you in spotting members who are using your messaging features to spam your other members.
  • Admin Log entries display can now be filtered to "Show All" log entries, "Mailer Only" or all with Mailer entries hidden.
  • Admin Logs can be automatically purged to a certain age (Lifetime). The auto-purge feature is disabled by default. (CP > Primary > Logging)
  • Admin Logs can now be completely disabled.
  • Subscription invoicing system in the control panel has been updated to improve usability.
  • Subscription Invoice number is now displayed to the Member on their Subscriptions page. They can use that number as a reference point if there are any issues with their Subscriptions. That number can be used in the Admin Subscription Manager.
  • Updated any libraries and assets.
  • Cleanup of language strings, templates, CSS, and JavaScript files.
  • Any code and page validation errors that were found, were fixed.

Version Discussion and Changelog
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Announcement/Changelog Discussion
09/17/18 10:36 AM
What To Do Next?

Now go update your forums.

If you have already updated, leave a comment reply here. Your comments help us know if you found something that needs to be fixed, or what new features you like the most.

Happy UBBTing! grin
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Announcement/Changelog Discussion
09/17/18 10:36 AM
New/Updated Styles
Along with the updated styles that are normally included in each release, there is a new style which you can also use on your forums.

UBB.threads styles - New for 7.6.2
  • Newport (Blue)

UBB.threads styles - Updated
  • UBB.threads
  • UBB.threads - Dark
  • UBB.threads - Light
  • UBBCentral
  • UBBCentral - Crimson (Red-White)
  • UBBCentral - Lime (LightGreen-Green)
  • UBBCentral - Marshmallow (Blue-Green)
  • UBBCentral - Mocha (Brown-DarkGreen)
  • UBBCentral - Zen (BlueGrey-Grey)
  • Ventura - Burgundy (DarkRed-DarkerRed)
  • Ventura - Cobalt (DarkBlue-DarkerBlue)
  • Ventura - Pine (Green)
  • Ventura Open - Ink (Blue)
  • Ventura Open - Mint (Green-DarkGreen)

Easily import the styles the same way you've always been able to import styles:
1. Go to Control Panel > Styles
2. Click the "Import Style" bottom tab.
3. Browse to your local install/styles/ directory from the "ubbthreads-XXX.zip" archive and select the style file you want to import.
4. Once your chosen style has been imported, you'll be at the "Edit or Add a Style" page. Confirm that Images within "Name, Images & Wrapper" is set to "default".
5. Click the "Update or Add Style" button at the bottom.
Your newly imported style is now ready to be used by your users. Repeat this process for each of the other new/updated styles you want to use.

From the Styles list page, now you can mark your older stock styles inactive, or delete them if you choose. Don't forget to set a default style for your forums.
Done.

Notes:
If you are currently using a stock style from your original UBB.threads 7.5 series install, it is highly recommended that you update to the matching current style from within the Member Area downloads section, or the most recent UBB.threads archive.
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Within the Member Area downloads is a section listing for Style Packs. These Style Packs are already included within the main UBB.threads zip archive. They are also being made available independently with the intention of being useful to forum owners still running UBB.threads 7.5 series forums. Ideally, we'd like those older forums to update to the latest version, but we know that you're staying on that version for your own reasons. These Style Packs are compatible with UBB.threads 7.5 and 7.6. There have been zero adjustments made to them to account for the 7.5 series template bugs (which have since been corrected in 7.6). We want your 7.5.x forum to look modern. So at no extra cost, here they are for you thumbsup

Further reading on UBB.threads Style Packs:
https://www.ubbcentral.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/261503/stock-ubb-threads-style-packs
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Announcement/Changelog Discussion
09/17/18 10:36 AM
Upgrading To The Current Version of UBB.threads 7
The upgrade path from UBB.threads 7.5.x versions, has always been to move to the most recent version of UBB.threads as they become available. Such as 7.5.x => 7.6.x. There is no need to do an incremental update from 7.5.8 to 7.5.9 to 7.6.0 to 7.6.1...etc. You should update directly from your current UBB.threads 7 version, to the most recent version of UBB.threads.

The UBB.threads 7 Upgrade Guide can be found in the Docs tab in the menu header.
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Announcement/Changelog Discussion
09/17/18 10:35 AM
TOC / Overview
UBB.threads 7.6.2 Changelog
Upgrading To The Current Version of UBB.threads 7
New Styles
What To Do Next? / Discussion


UBB.threads 7.6.2 Changelog
UBB.threads 7.6.2 has been released and is now available to download in the Member Area.

Summary of Changes
[NEW] Private Messages/Topics can now be emailed, so a recipient can keep a copy of their PM/PT offsite using their own email service.
[NEW] Inline display of attached PDF documents. Your forum must allow .pdf file attachments (Control Panel / Features / Attachments: Allowed Attachment File Extensions).
[NEW] Subscription Invoice number is now displayed to the Member on their Subscriptions page. They can use that number as a reference point if there are any issues with their Subscriptions. That number can be used in the Admin Subscription Manager.
[NEW] Subscription process will now display a "Thank You" page and return the user to the subscriptions list upon a successful transaction.
[NEW] Control Panel Dashboard now displays Admin Log and Referrer Log entry counts, and will link to each section.
[NEW] A log entry is now created each time your forum sends an Email. The Log Entry will display the Member Name, To Email Address, and the Topic Title. The contents of the email are not included within the log entry. This feature has been requested by forum admins to help track how many, how often, to who, and what their forum are sending by Email. Member privacy is still maintained. The log is intended to be used for statistic generation and debugging. An example of the items which generate an Email log entry are, Emailed Watched Topics/Forums, Messages, Emailed Posts/Topics. This tool can assist you in spotting members who are using your messaging features to spam your other members.
[NEW] Admin Logs can be automatically purged to a certain age (Lifetime). The auto-purge feature is disabled by default. (CP > Primary > Logging)
[NEW] Admin Logs can now be completely disabled.
[NEW] Emailing members from the control panel has been updated with several new features:
• 1/ Each section is now described in full.
• 2/ The forum email address is now displayed, since it will be the return email add for your mailings.
• 3/ A notice is displayed regarding users who have chosen not to receive admin emails.
• 4/ Added an option for insertion of HTML line breaks (<br>) for new lines. This is useful for when you are sending pure text, vs sending something you've created in a third-party HTML editor.
• 5/ "BCC: Send Email As" is now pre-filled with the forum email address, and is customizable.
• 6/ "Send Emails One At A Time" is now set as default. This can lighten the load on your host's Email servers when sending out mass mailings, though its strongly advised to use a full-blown email manager (such as "phpList Email List Manager") for managing your websites news letters.
• 7a/ You can now send out a Test Email of your mailer before you mass email it. This is useful for previewing what your message would look like in your own email program before sending it to your members. The address you enter does not need to belong to a member within the forum database.
• 7b/ If you link directly to this page without using the member search, you can use the Test Email feature to send emails to non-members using your default forum Mailer Templates.
• 7c/ This feature is also useful for testing your forum email settings to any email address.
[NEW] StopForumSpam Lookup & Reporting (SFS Check) in the Member Editor has been updated to display within the same browser window, rather than as a pop-out window. The info box now also displays the user's Registration Date, Last Post Date (if any), and IP addresses for either, along with the normal SFS report.
[NEW] StopForumSpam Lookups are now logged in the Admin Log. If the Member was found in the SFS database, a "(SFS!)" notation will be added in the log next to the item that was triggered.
[NEW] Style Editor now generates an additional "/styles/style.css" file alongside the current STYLENAME_####.css file when you edit and save your forum's Main Default Style. The style.css file is compressed with human-readability in mind. The purpose for this new file is so you can link to it from external scripts to utilize your site's stock styles all in one place, and using a single/expected file name. Setting a different style as Default will also create the style.css for this new Default Style.
[NEW] (UBBT Upgrader) now checks and displays installed UBB.threads version based on variables stored in the current database.
[NEW] (UBBT Installer) A sample forum is automatically created under the main category.
[NEW] (UBBT Installer) The list of Search Engine Spiders for UBB.threads is pre-populated.

[UPDATE] Send Private Message page has been cleaned up and made more user friendly.
[UPDATE] Member Spotlight island header can now be clicked to visit the Member List.
[UPDATE] Updated Post Icon selection display for improved mobile friendliness.
[UPDATE] Updated Member Avatar image and Initial display on Post list pages.
[UPDATE] Updated language mentions of BBCode language from "[image]" to instead use the "[img]" term. This is purely aesthetic. Both uses of the BBCode are still valid.
[UPDATE] Added basic header information to the Email template.
[UPDATE] PayPal IPN (instant Payment Notification) Verification Postback has been updated to HTTP/1.1 (HTTPS). HTTP/1.0 (HTTP) postbacks will no longer be supported by PayPal as of June 2018.
[UPDATE] Dashboard will display a notice when Debugging is enabled.
[UPDATE] Member Editor will display a notice if the member being edited is banned, and for how long.
[UPDATE] Admin Log entries display can now be filtered to "Show All" log entries, "Mailer Only" or all with Mailer entries hidden.
[UPDATE] Admin Log items have been updated, such as; Style Numbers are shown with the Style Name.
[UPDATE] Style Editor now displays "[Site Default]" next to the default site style in the drop-down list.
[UPDATE] Subscription Transaction Details in Admin now has a "Return To Transactions List" button.
[UPDATE] Subscription invoicing system in the control panel has been updated to improve usability. Columns have been rearranged to match the ordering used in other areas of the subscription system. The member's email addresses are now displayed with their member name. Searching for subscriptions by Display Name is no longer case sensitive, and allows the use of wildcard. Can now search for transactions by registration email address.
[UPDATE] Updated the URL and PATH language strings to be more specific with regards to "absolute" vs "relative"
[UPDATE] Updated all example urls from "http" to "https" in an attempt to push a recommendation towards using secure connections.
[UPDATE] StopForumSpam Lookup & Reporting in the Control Panel now opens in the same page as the user you are editing. This should help prevent mistakes of reporting a wrong user when you have multiple member-editor tabs open at the same time.
[UPDATE] Updated Font Awesome library from 5.0.4 to version 5.3.1
[UPDATE] Updated jQuery library from 3.2.1 to version 3.3.1.
[UPDATE] Updated PHPMailer library from 5.2.25 to version 5.2.26
[UPDATE] Updated Smarty library from 3.1.31 to version 3.1.32
[UPDATE] Updated Autosize asset from 4.0.0 to version 4.0.2
[UPDATE] Updated Dropzone asset from 5.2.0 to version 5.5.0
[UPDATE] Cleanup of language strings, templates, CSS, and JavaScript files.
[UPDATE] (UBBT Installer) Default variables have been updated to reflect modern internet forum standards.

[FIX] Member Avatars in the showflat_side/top templates have been corrected to prevent overlapping/leaking in to the post content.
[FIX] Gallery List page will now display lead image to fit 100% of long edge of the image, rather than cropped to center.
[FIX] Avatar display on Post list pages is now Internet Explorer 11 compatible.
[FIX] Mail Post link will only be displayed to Members.
[FIX] Fixed a minor HTML validation error within the Email templates.
[FIX] Control Panel updates causing Admin Log entries with a NULL setting (or none) are now displayed as "NULL". Previously they were displayed as "0" which would be confusing when entries of "0" were also stored.
[FIX] Reverted the 7.6.1 viewport setting for admin Control Panel until the Control Panel is mobile friendly.
[FIX] Any code and page validation errors that were found, were fixed.
[FIX] (UBBT Upgrader) Upgrader now correctly upgrades from UBB.threads 7.5.6p1, 7.5.6p2, and 7.5.9.1 versions.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/17/18 10:15 AM
Originally Posted by isaac
Originally Posted by Slaz
Yet, I can't really blame the host for dropping end-of-life software that isn't being patched anymore, in today's world where security is highly prioritized over features.

Progress on UBB.threads support for PHP7 is definitely a work in progress.
As you're probably already aware, the current core software development, announcements and general how-to guides posted here, are being done by just one person, myself. Lots of support and additional code resources are being provided to me from Gizmo.

As I've written in the ShoutChat box last week, "It's really hard to make a plan for a release, because there isn't a team of developers available 40 hours a week. Sometimes we will have a lot of time to contribute and sometimes we'll have a really busy week."

7.6.2 is being released later today, in hopes of completing that round, and joining the battle for php7 once again thumbsup

Thanks, really appreciate the continued development and dedication to this software! I'll contact my host soon and see if we'll manage something with either longer support for 5.6 or to let it run 'silent' in the back. thumbsup
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Style Downloads
09/17/18 10:04 AM
UBB.threads Style Pack has been updated and is available to download from the Member Area.
style-ubb.threads-20180918

UBBCentral Style Pack has been updated and is available to download from the Member Area.
style-ubbcentral-20180918

Ventura Style Pack has been updated and is available to download from the Member Area.
style-ventura-20180918
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/17/18 09:49 AM
Originally Posted by Slaz
Yet, I can't really blame the host for dropping end-of-life software that isn't being patched anymore, in today's world where security is highly prioritized over features.


PHP 5.6 is officially supported until 31 December 2018
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP#Release_history

PHP 5.6 received a security patch just 5 days ago, September 13, 2018
http://php.net/ChangeLog-5.php#5.6.38

Progress on UBB.threads support for PHP7 is definitely a work in progress.
As you're probably already aware, the current core software development, announcements and general how-to guides posted here, are being done by just one person, myself. Lots of support and additional code resources are being provided to me from Gizmo.

As I've written in the ShoutChat box last week, "It's really hard to make a plan for a release, because there isn't a team of developers available 40 hours a week. Sometimes we will have a lot of time to contribute and sometimes we'll have a really busy week."

7.6.2 is being released later today, in hopes of completing that round, and joining the battle for php7 once again thumbsup
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/17/18 09:37 AM
I'm also in this situation at the moment.

My host is very security-savvy and top of the line, and they're completely dropping PHP5.6 support around October this year.

Any chance or estimation when (basic) PHP7.0+ support is coming to UBB.Threads?

For my website, it was enough to simply move all database connections to MySQLi and the rest of the code was compatible. However, I understand UBB.Threads is significantly more complicated.

Yet, I can't really blame the host for dropping end-of-life software that isn't being patched anymore, in today's world where security is highly prioritized over features.
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Feedback & Suggestions
09/16/18 12:19 AM
There is no need to "upload" the /cache and /gallery directories, as you would already have them on your current functional install.

The install zip archive includes these for the purpose of a doing a new/initial installation.


NOTES:
Link to the upgrade documentation you're referring to:
https://www.ubbcentral.com/doc_upgrade7.php

* The "Upload these" section are the functional program script directories.
* The "Do not upload these" section are your own forum custom configuration directories.
* Everything else not mentioned are either your forum's /cache or /upload (attachments/gallery) directories.
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Feedback & Suggestions
09/15/18 07:55 PM
I just successfully updated to 7.1.1 with no problems. But I noticed a couple of items in the upgrade documentation that might use some cleaning up.

In Preparing the Files, step 5 says to upload ALL the files except for a list of items not to upload. That is followed by a list of specific directories, subdirectores and files to upload. There are a cache and a gallery directory in the unzipped directory. Those directories are not included in the list of specific directories to upload, nor are they included in the list of items not to upload. So it is not clear if they should be uploaded or not. I uploaded them. Things seem to be working so I expect they should have been in the list of "Upload these" items.

Maybe I misread the upgrade docs.

So far I am happy with the upgrade.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/13/18 02:32 AM
We do not have a PHP7 compatible build currently available; several key portions of coding has to be completely rewritten to reach that point.

If you're stuck in a situation where your host updates PHP you can instruct Apache to use an older installed build by inserting one of the following in your .htaccess in your webroot:
Code
# Use PHP56 Single php.ini as default - all subdirectories will use ~/public_html/php.ini
AddHandler application/x-httpd-php56s .php

Code
# Use PHP56 php.ini as default - all subdirectories will use their root php.ini
AddHandler application/x-httpd-php56 .php
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/13/18 02:22 AM
Jump to new posts PHP 7.2 [by Geoff]
My hosting provider upgraded to PHP 7.2 today which broke UBB 7.6.1.1. Is there a release coming that will support it? I could not find it in changelog but thought I remember talk about it.

I was able to downgrade to 5.6 but being forced to upgrade by end of year.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/07/18 05:53 PM
blacklisted by a single user or by a single email server? they are not all one system. each server will reject of filter what it chooses and for however long it is programmed to do that for. some servers do it based upon if the majority user reports the email as spam or if the email address being sent to is not existent or if it's receiving too many messages within a short period of time. ex: 20 messages to joe@exanple.com in 1 minute.

and then there are some servers who will never accept anything from certain domains. work in a strickt medical or government office? it's possible that anything from Hotmail or Gmail or your domain name containing a triggered term will be blocked.. noreply@ no-reply@ mailer@ newsletter@ bulk@ info@ hello@ donotreply@ ...etc it may be rejected because your email is too short or doesn't include the expected native language, or the phrases used in the email are confusing.

using an email address that isn't your domain, while delivering content on behalf of the forum domain also has a high chance of getting filtered out. ex: sending example@gmail.com email from forum@example.com domain.

it's also possible that an email server may be down at the time of your first mailing, but will be back up and running be the time you send out something to them next time. ex: failed delivery. please retry or try again later.

you may also have troubled sending because your emails are not sent securely. an invalid SPF or DKIM or DMARC. Or even if the server sending is @hosting.com but you are using @gmail.com as tour forum email address. that is seen as spoofing to the receiving mail server.

there are many more scenarios than just these, for why your email was not delivered to that single email server. and remember, not all email servers are tied together.

note: typed from mobile. please excuse typos and the phone's auto-corrected shenanigans.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/07/18 05:16 PM
Thanks for the info Giz.
My biggest concern is still the UBB native email address could still be blacklisted.
right now window shopping on what my options are.
I may still go to a third party email address.
At least till the emails are cleaned up.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/07/18 12:31 AM
I have a basic standalone script, UBB.threads Bounced Email Processor that I wrote in 2016; I use it to login to my forums IMAP account and process any bounces (either disable UBB.threads emails, or generate a list of bounce-backs), can delete the bounce back messages on the server, can add users to a defined group on UBB.threads, and support sending login information over SSL on a POP3/IMAP server. I only run it as a cron task however, so it automatically processes bounces; but it does have a web interface, however you're at the mercy of the PHP setting "max execution time".

It'd take some playing with the system to get it to run smoothly, especially if its your first time running it and you have a significant amount of messages to go through.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/06/18 09:54 PM
Thank You!
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/06/18 09:32 PM
Originally Posted by Ruben
I understand all that I was just being anal in the fact I would like to fix the ubb database as well.
I know that list managers will auto block bad email address's on subsequent mailings.
So yea just export a email list using the ubb cp to a file then import to say phplist. No brainer..

I just want to capture the bounced emails from phplist and fix ubb at the same time.


its all good thumbsup

If you choose to manually process them, I've attached a screenshot of how you could export your blacklists (this is what phpLists calls bounces, refusals, and unsubscribes) from phpList

alternatively --
You could setup a short php program that runs on a weekly cron task to process the "blacklists" back in to UBBT. The documentation for how to do that is in the phpList docs and has been discussed several times in their forums.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/06/18 09:07 PM
I understand all that I was just being anal in the fact I would like to fix the ubb database as well.
I know that list managers will auto block bad email address's on subsequent mailings.
So yea just export a email list using the ubb cp to a file then import to say phplist. No brainer..

I just want to capture the bounced emails from phplist and fix ubb at the same time.

As far as phplist.org and phplist.com they are mixed together on the same site, but I will sort it out.
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/06/18 08:01 PM
Originally Posted by Ruben
I think the phplist would be the way to go If I can get the export to ubb. It appears I could use the table in phplist or a csv file.


You dont need to dig through the UBB.threads database to export user email addresses. Luckily that feature has been available for nearly 10 years thumbsup

Control Panel / Members / Email Members.

See attached screenshots


edit1:
if you have a really large list of users, you can export them in batches of 10 years, or 5 years or even 1 year groups. It doesnt matter if you overlap a time period and get the user's email address multiple times. phpList is smart enough to notice duplicate email addresses, and will only insert new ones. I was able to split a community consisting of over 30,000 members in to two sets; 20000101-20100101 and 20100101-CURRENT.

edit2: UBBCentral also uses phpLists since probably even before 2010. I'm not sure if Rick, Brooks or SD set it up way back then. I've done a few software version upgrades to it since. But it is the software used here for the sparse community mailings.
https://www.ubbcentral.com/lists/
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/06/18 07:52 PM
Originally Posted by Ruben
From what I see phplist is only free with the trial version.
After that they charge you per message or subscriber.

phplist.com is a paid subscription service
vs
phplist.org is open source php software (phpList is licensed with the AGPL version3+.)
source: https://www.phplist.org/about/

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How much does phpList cost?
phpList is free to download and run on your own servers. Running phpList effectively requires an appropriate hosting package and access to a working mail server, capable of delivering your campaigns. Even expert users will need help from time to time: community support is available on this website, including documentation and forums. Professional support is also available from experienced consultants and community members. phpList.com provides free hosted accounts and paid plans.

phplist.org is what I linked to in my OP and every other place I've mentioned it.

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phpList software is Open Source: this means you can use it for any purpose and you have the right to study, change and share the software.

phpList can be downloaded at
https://www.phplist.org/download-phplist/
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General Assistance (How Do I?)
09/06/18 07:40 PM
Originally Posted by isaac
digests are the last/recent posts. they can be whatever you want. email newsletters. site updates. whatever smile

phplistmanager is free. if you contract someone to do work for you, they probably will charge you. I assume that the "fee involved" that you mentioned.

From what I see phplist is only free with the trial version.
After that they charge you per message or subscriber.

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We have no time limit on the Trial account. Unless you explicitly ask us to remove it, or when emails sent to you bounce may we decide to remove your trial account. But even when it bounces, we will probably wait some time before actually removing it.

However, the trial account is limited in volume: It allows you to send up to 300 messages per month with a daily limit of 50 messages..

https://www.phplist.com/knowledgebase/trial-account-limits/

Gizmo as I stated before it would be nuts to manually update 14,000 members one at a time.

I think the phplist would be the way to go If I can get the export to ubb. It appears I could use the table in phplist or a csv file.

I just need to signup at least for the free trial. They have a demo login but...
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