Fair enough Charles, I will start my education on MySQL (now that I know how to spell it I guess I'm part way there <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> )

The photo forum http://www.robgalbraith.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php

They have, since getting it stable, gone with a consultant who has been doing a lot of customization (to display ads now)- but my impression was their initial conversion, and for the first couple of months, was just vanilla UBB to vanilla Threads - for a couple of months, it was scarily common (just about daily at times) to see the forums stop, and error messages appear.. all very discouraging to me of course (I mean as one with a UBB forum of similar size, looking to RG as an example of my next step.)

Bob