well I re-read what I said at first and it sounded like I was calling you a bad coder or something which I wasn't.. I just mean people in general.. I have friends who write (pretty crapy) web pages, and they always talk about how much Netscape sucks.... Not because they are sooooooooooo good at HTML that they notice Netscape's frame tag is off by 10px..... but because their code is so friggen broken that only IE will display it right..

Anyway.. I use NS almost 100% of the time.. I never visit sites that don't render right.. I think that any site that gets so picky about stuff like that.. I usually won't want to look at any way (like I said.. you run into these problems by trying to do cool tricks with HTM which end up being annoying anyway.....)

BTW: Have you tried the latest Mozilla yet? Maybe you should.. Just because it isn't out of beta yet doesn't mean it isn't good.. Plus it works in Linux, IE doesn't. =)

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Jeremy 'PeelBoy' Amberg