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"All I can say I hope the next generation version will be given to many people to run a proper beta test - the public betas here do not allow serious testing, as several revisions are kept away from the public - you can't expect people to jump from b1 to b4 then b6 etc., over a span of a few months, and seriously test the product. "

Why not? That's the most dissapointing statement I've read on these forums in all the years I've been the Product Manager. Honestly. <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

I'm wondering, do you think we need to put people through the minutea of updating every day over typos in the control panel as I do my closed beta test group? We put out the beta version in the Member Area when there are significant and real changes to be tested or demonstrated. Not to test or track typos. Not to test or track HTML code changes. Not to test or track color scheme changes.

We spent an amount of time at one point in the cycle changing from the old blue look I posted in my screen shots thread, to the current earthy colors. Did we need to put out another public beta release for that?

How many testers will we keep, and how much of their attention are we going to hold, if we issue a beta release for every change like that?

The specific change which is causing you the largest amount of trouble was in ALL of the public beta versions. All of them.

Please Ian, if you're going to take your shots at me and my decision making, make them legitimate. Missing a release because I didn't think a color change, or some other minor change, warranted a public release is not, in my mind, a reasonable complaint.

You've been around a long time. Do I wish that more people would download and run the betas (I have the numbers)? Sure. Of course I do. Do I wish more people that download it would find or report problems? Yes.

Do I think people don't run the betas because I didn't issue a b5 between b4 and b6?

Absolutely not.

Ian, you've been around a long time. I find value in your opinion. but this time, I can't disagree more.