David,
I understand where you are coming from - but put yourself in my shoes.
I would have loved to have run the beta properly - but didn't for two main reasons.
1) The betas seems to run on for several months now, far long than they ever used to (whether that is fact or I am getting older is debatable <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> )
2) B1 is released to us public - great we all think new features let's test it - well the best we can do is run some minor tests - we can't do a full public test like the beat testers do, because b2 and b3 which contain bug fixes to some showstoppers are not released. This was the case for 6.4 as well - so people having had their fingers burnt with 6.4 betas are going to leave 6.5 betas alone. You highlighted b5 - but I reckon b5 was far more minor than b2 & b3. When people ask for a fix to a showstopper from b1, they are simply told 'You shouldn't run this in a live environment' - not exactly helpful to encourage others. <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
So anyway version 6.5 is released, with what seems like a lot of bugs - some companies would release a 6.5.1, 6.5.2, 6.5.3 (or maybe a 6.5 build 1, 6.5 build 2 in a regular sequence to help those having problems - but we seem to have to wait for an extended period of time for one large bundled release, which frustrates people.
Yes, I have been around a long time - and I try to give a balanced view of things and help others where I can - but if you were to get threads started on a daily basis from fed-up users, you too would get depressed by the situation.
Let's face it David, one slight moan on here and you are having a dig back at a customer <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I get the moans and complaints daily - do I criticise back? NO! They are my users, my lifeblood without them there would be no forum.
All I can say is that I am trying to find a fix for the major errors that they are getting, and apologise time after time - and believe me knowing which posts you have read, and which you haven't is very major to many people. Would you rather me post your email address and direct all the moans to you? Because right now, I do not know how much more I can take - when you dread clicking on the flashing envolope to read the contents of another PM, then things are getting bad <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
I honestly cannot take much more of it. <img src="https://www.ubbcentral.com/boards/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
I must disagree with one point I was NOT having a pot at you - in fact your name didn't even come to my mind - and nor did Rick's - it was a general feeling felt not only by myself but by several others. (I am not even sure who makes the decisions at Infopop - maybe it is you, maybe not - please don't assume we all know who works at Infopop - there is only one person's name I can remember and that is Rick's and that is simply because of the wwwthreads days)
My posts have dwindled since 6.5 - the complaints have rocketed - so much so that people even approach me at football games to have a moan - not much fun.
I am sorry you disagree - and maybe others also disagree -maybe I am the only one who thinks like this - you wish more people would take part in betas but there has to be a reason why they don't.
This morning I have to make a decision do I a) Downgrade to 6.4 , b) Ignore the complaints and patiently wait for a fix or c) close shop and give up on several years of hard work?
All we ask for is honesty - tell us the fixes will not be out until next month - or tell us it is due this week - the problem is that we never know when anything is likely to appear - maybe others can live like that, but I find it frustrating.
I can see the stop sign at the crossroads ahead - which way do I turn? because the current road is far too narrow.
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